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Terrys1980
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, on June 16th they signed the bill to outlaw HID headlights that aren't factory installed. The only person left to sign is the governor Bobdy Jindal. I am sure he will sign it. The Louisiana state troopers are usually a**holes when it comes to custom accessories that are against the law.

How many of the senators drive expensive imports or Cadillacs with HID headlights? Probably all of them.

The guy at the inspection station I usually go to is pretty lenient when it comes to motorcycles, but not cars.

On the same day but different bill they are going to allow front seat video screens.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/06/sen ate_says_no_to_high-intensi.html
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For most states HIDs that aren't factory installed are illegal.

LA is just behind the times.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

awesome because that makes sense...i guess that because the safety guys can't/won't help/make people properly adjust their headlights they are jsut going to ban better headlights...
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are DOT legal HID lights on the market specifically designed for retrofit, you may want to drop Hella a note about this and see if they can change the law to non DOT lights like all the other states.
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Terrys1980
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The parts of the lamp have to be in compliance with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 108, as adopted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108 - Its purpose is to reduce traffic crashes and deaths and injuries resulting from traffic crashes, by providing adequate illumination of the roadway, and by enhancing the conspicuity of motor vehicles on the public roads so that their presence is perceived and their signals understood, both in daylight and in darkness or other conditions of reduced visibility
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Putting HID bulbs in a housing that was designed for halogens is dumb and causes a poor pattern, usually with high spots that will blind oncoming traffic. A projector lens is the only lens an HID should be used with.

This is a smart law.
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Terrys1980
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The majority of the newer vehicles have the center reflector over the bulb.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why deliberately target only HID?
They are plenty of ways to blind oncoming traffic.

Lawmakers make laws.
They don't know much.
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the fact of the matter is that they already have laws enforcing the use of DOT approved lights, why not just enforce them?

A fixture that is DOT approved for halogen use is not approved for HID use (and probably the other way around too). It does not require a new law, just enforcing what is already there.

If they want to write a new law that really matters, then write one that requires motorcycle headlights to actually be worth having on the vehicle, not the sorry excuses for daytime running lights that most bikes have as stock. There are few people who will say that the stock lights on their bike are good enough.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The majority of the newer vehicles have the center reflector over the bulb.

That has nothing to do with it.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what does matter is the orientation of the filament in halogens. if the filament runs parallel to the length of the envelope then HIDs are usually no problem. if the halogen filament runs perpendicular to the envelope HIDs are a BAD idea. it's all about the source of the light and how it's oriented to the lens/reflector combo as to whether or not the lens/reflector combo can correctly shape the beam.

with any headlight or forward facing light they need to be adjusted correctly in order to provide illumination and not blind others is an absolute. it's not hard to do and if for any reason you can't any competent shop can do it for you. this step is esp important after any mods to a vehicle that alters it's ride height or it's attitude.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so this law obviously affects me since I am a Louisiana resident Does this mean I have to change my bulbs to some cheap bulbs or is this talking about those guys who go buy those kits on the internet that hurt peoples eyes after they are installed?

If it is the second one then I am glad because i won't have to ride around half blind any more because of some dick head.

As far as La state boys they never mess with motorcycles for random lights and mods on this side of La. Which I wish they would sometimes. Because there is this mod that people put on harleys that gets on my last nerve and that is when there headlight strobes.

Lastly how is it that they are going to pass this law but the biggest safty law ever did not pass for 3rd year and a row. That being the no cell phone while driving law.
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Terrys1980
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As long as the headlight isn't deep blue or purple-ish then I don't think it will draw that much attention. Honestly I thought we already had that law in LA.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually like the headlight strobes....
Unless the rider is an idiot and uses them at night. THAT'S a criminal offense. Flogging is too good for them.

In NY white or yellow headlights are legal. I run yellow on my Cyclone, and buddies say it's quite obvious.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-light-bu lbs/yellow-light-bulbs.htm

Anything that reduces the invisible bike problem is good.
But.
Bad headlight patterns are bad. period.
XL1200R is correct on bad patterns.
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