| Author | Message | ||
     Johnnymceldoo |
Yes I know gasoline is already taxed but what about miles driven? This could generate alot of revenue badly needed to pay down debt and keep government moving. It also has a potential to reduce road use and cut down on pollution. Less driving for the sake of driving. I think all of us here regardless of political leanings desire cleaner air and less money going to big oil. | ||
| Geforce |
How would a government go about measuring and then administering collection of said tax? Seems to me it would just create a new department within the already massive government. Not to mention the states might want a part of this as the best way to collect the miles would be during annual safety inspections. No Sir. Not for me. | ||
| Sifo |
I don't want clean air. In fact I've rerouted my exhaust up through the floor of my car. I would route it into your car too if I could. | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
Absolutely not. Right now the tax is on fuel consumed. If you change that to miles driven, then there's no difference between a compact car and an SUV. The current taxes along with the rising price of gasoline does plenty to reward the use of fuel-efficient vehicles. Don't want to spend as much money on fuel? - buy less. I'm tired of hearing coworkers complain on a daily basis about the price of gasoline when they insist on driving the biggest, "coolest" vehicle they can find. If you choose to drive a H1/2/3, Excursion, etc then you choose to fill that vehicle with fuel. It's that simple. | ||
| Trackdad |
Rules of taxing: 1. Sales tax on the vehicle itself. This happens in most states. 2. County road usage fee. Minnesota has it in the seven county metro area. 3. Registration and license fees on an annual basis. 4. Gas tax; state and federal level 5. Miscellaneous hazwaste fees for oil, tires and such. 6. Fees to keep up your drivers license. I know there has to be many that I missed along the way, but doesn't a national sales tax seem more fair to everyone? And lets see... my little Audi gets 30MPG and the Yukon my wife drives gets 20MPG, so mile for mile I will be paying more per gallon under the proposed gas scheme for the Audi than driving the Yukon....does that sound fair??? | ||
| Paint_shaker |
In a word; "No"! How about we quit speeding boo-coo $$$ on other countries and keep it in our own!!! | ||
| Strokizator |
Let's impose the same fees for bicycles. Let them sumbitches pay for their own bike lanes! | ||
| Greg_e |
We already are, that is part of the federal, state, and local road use taxes on every single drop of motor vehicle fuel. Every time you get on a toll way you are now paying extra for the use of that road. | ||
| Cpeg |
you forgot the biggest road tax scam of all. If you make the mistake of doing those miles faster, you get a big nasty tax. Then there is the scam tax called insurance. Great idea, lets add more taxes, I think I got about 2 cents left I can claim for my own, might as well give that away for nothing added. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
This has got to be the "dumbest, idiotic, wanna punch whoever-thought-of-it in the face" type of post I've seen in a while. (it's a figure of speech, I wouldn't punch you for real man) Just sayin. | ||
| Cowboy |
Damn Obama the lying SOB said no more tax on less than $250,000.00 citizen. Just to go show you can not trust a Democrat. | ||
| Stirz007 |
Taxes are supposed to be tied to the associated governmental cost, at least that is the idea. The gasoline tax was promulgated with the intent and promise that the money would be used EXCLUSIVELY for building and maintaining highways. Over time, our elected officials (who sold us on the gas tax to begin with "don't worry, it will only be used for...) have siphoned off the revenue to fund other agendas... NO! Gasoline tax or vehicle mileage tax has no bearing on the national debt. The debt is a result of deficit spending by the characters inside the beltway. War in Iraq, social programs (some good, some bad), pork projects, you name it. Paying down the national debt will entail things like cutting programs (and I don't mean Medicare or Social Security, which we pay into with the expectation that we will be covered when the time comes, these are different), paying down the debt (projected to be 100% of GDP in 2011), etc., etc. The national debt was increased by 33% in just the last three years. Over 50% of interest payments (or about 5% of total government spending) go overseas. It's broken and no one wants to hear it. Hope and Change? Ha!! | ||
| Cpeg |
Damn Obama the lying SOB said no more tax on less than $250,000.00 citizen. Just to go show you can not trust a Democrat. and you trust republicans? Hate to break the news to you but the republicans raised the taxes and spent the money too. | ||
| Cowboy |
Well just in case you have a short memory. We were heading in to a resssion under Bill Clinton G Bush turned it around and we had 6 pretty good yrs Then we (us americans) elected a Democrat congress. At that time the investors became frightoned of higher taxes and the rest is history. Think man. th | ||
| Stirz007 |
Not looking to pick a fight with either side of the aisle - at the end of the day, all those cats are complicit. My source of info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_ debt All I was saying is that the current administration has increased the debt by a much larger margin than any previous one. Dubya came in in 2000: Debt was $5.6 Trillion, or 58% of GDP, by 2007 it was $8.95 Trillion, or 65% of GDP (over his tenure of 8 years, the debt went up $3.35 Trillion) - and that was not good. The One has added $4.57 Trillion in debt in JUST THREE YEARS! And thats REALLY REALLY not good. I mean, how long can this go on without us becoming bankrupt, IOW, economic collapse?? | ||
| Cowboy |
Give a Republican Money and he will invest it. Give a democrat money and he will squander it. And my reff is 75 yrs of living and watching. | ||
| Slaughter |
No - tax each breath. This way the people who are out of shape will have to pay more since they breathe harder... think of the health benefits, they'll be motivated to get in shape to reduce their tax burden... and until then, they will pay more to SUPPORT their state of health. Yep... makes perfect sense. | ||
| Stirz007 |
Clinton, love him or hate him, left office with a balanced budget and a $850 billion dollar surplus.... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
How about we follow Article 1, Section 8 and the Tenth Amendment and shrink the size of the Federal Government down to it's rightful size? Then the question of whether or not we allow the Federal Government to tax miles driven becomes moot. The Federal Government makes two times what the oil companies do per gallon (average revenue per gallon $.09-.10 per gallon for the oil companies, $.18.4 per gallon Federal Gas Tax). THEN the Federal Government taxes the net income of the oil companies again. Now if the individual states were permitted to run their own programs and tax their own operations within their own states, those revenues wouldn't be sent to Washington and redistributed as WASHINGTON sees fit. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Clinton, love him or hate him, left office with a balanced budget and a $850 billion dollar surplus.... The Democrats didn't control Congress. | ||
| Court |
I'm going to drive to and from work in reverse and get a refund. | ||
| Cpeg |
Well just in case you have a short memory. Well just in case you have a short memory. We were heading in to a resssion under Bill Clinton G Bush turned it around and we had 6 pretty good yrs Then we (us americans) elected a Democrat congress. At that time the investors became frightoned of higher taxes and the rest is history. Think man. I do think, and I find those that tell me to think are short on that ability. FCKING politics and religion, nobody is right because everybody is wrong. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Stirz, There is a difference between a surplus and a projected surplus. A surplus is bags of money sitting in a vault. A projected surplus is one in which you project to have bags of money in a vault based upon tax revenues and economic growth continuing on a projected path. Those projections began falling apart in September of 2000 when the beginning stages of a recession happened. Those projections became completely irrelevant on 9/11. It is intellectually dishonest and factually inaccurate to make the statement that "Bush "squandered" the Clinton surplus". There were no bags of cash sitting in a vault to squander. That fallacy gets parroted daily by people who either don't know any better or don't care to know any better. I'm going to assume that you are the former and not the later. | ||
| Aesquire |
I object for a few reasons. The purpose of this tax is not so much to raise money, but to social engineer. It seeks to punish an activity, ( movement ) while purporting to punish consumption. The mile tax is unconstitutional. It is a religious tax. The means to gather such a tax require a database of mileage traveled. Somehow you must report your miles to the government. An entire new bureaucracy must be created, and funded to keep track of how many miles you go. More government workers means less money available for other government functions. And, simply, it none of their damn business how many miles I go. I already pay multiple taxes to maintain and build the roads I use, and since I drive a diesel, I pay more taxes based on a presumption of increased road wear, while having a much smaller wear footprint than planned for. ( that's right! I'm virtuous! Suck on that Al Gore! ) | ||
| Rah7777777 |
Short answer..... F#€K NO!! And I only drive 3 miles a day normally. But when I fill up at the pump ( 5.3L ) I feel I'm paying enough in taxes ( and other "fees" ). Uncle Obama can keep his hands out of my pockets! I could pay alot less if I still had my 46 MPG jetta, but I need a truck at times :-( When I need to go farther out I take the bike to save gas. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
how about we first get the elected officials, and government official staffers to pay their tax first; then we can get all uppity about new taxes.... Like FAT TAX, based on BMI, body weight, girth, and %fat. It is the only thing in America that is increasing every year. It is the never ending supply o pork. No exemptions, no excuses - hell they want to treat us like livestock anyways. | ||
| Rah7777777 |
And working for a local government, I can tell you the government is it's own enemy. They could save TONS if they looked in there own house and cleaned up here and there. I'm not saying lay offs, I'm saying watching where the money goes better. So much is wasted on BS stuff... So much!!!! | ||
| Royintulsa |
You post a proposal like that on his forum? Tar and feathers! | ||
| Cityxslicker |
At 5-6 245... I certainly aint exempt either ! | ||
| Froggy |
Not true, it already exists at least in NY. When you get your vehicle inspected every year your mileage is recorded and reported to the DMV. It would take an extra 3 seconds for the computer to add it to your bill when you go to renew your reg every other year. |
