| Author | Message | ||
     007blast |
this is a great article that sums up some of the hd riders out there. http://jalopnik.com/#!5796634/harley-with-fake-tank+mounted-iphone-for- the-super-poseur | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Yours is a great post that sums up some of the buell riders out there - you can't even provide a correct link to the article. FB | ||
| Syonyk |
I'm more inclined to blame the board having issues with a rather oddly formed URL than the poster... Most boards will properly deal with a pasted URL. Pasted, in a manner that works on most other forums: http://jalopnik.com/#!5796634/harley-with-fake-tank+mounted-iphone-for- the-super-poseur URL-ized in a form the board prefers: http://jalopnik.com/#!5796634/harley-with-fake-tan k+mounted-iphone-for- the-super-poseur | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
I'm inclined to blame a Buell rider that has to bag on Harley riders to feel superior. One man's opinion. FB | ||
| Danger_dave |
What I don't get is why is it such a problem to be white collar and have a Harley. 'Accountants and Dentists' blah blah blah. You have to be dirty and thick to be a motorcyclist. Hey! you smart, rich guys, you can't have that. | ||
| Syonyk |
Danger_dave: The problem isn't the white collar Harley riders. The problem is the white collar Harley riders who dress to pretend they're "badass bikers" on the weekend. Or, more frequently, like the image that they're badass bikers, but put 300 miles/yr on the bike (not counting trailer miles). There's a big difference, and I'd hope you know exactly what the difference is. | ||
| Guell |
are they sure its a fake? being a bagger i could see someone doing that since they have stereos. Whats the big deal anyways, its someones bike. I feel no reason to bag on someone or what they ride. | ||
| Court |
>>>Hey! you smart, rich guys, you can't have that. We were on a group ride once in Kansas . . all headed to Guy and Mae's for ribs . . and got stopped by a passing train at a rail crossing. I jumped off my FXR, grabbed a camera and yelled "everybody wave". Later a friend commented . . ."that's the most Rolex Presidents I've ever seen in one photo" | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
The problem is the white collar Harley riders who dress to pretend they're "badass bikers" on the weekend. Or, more frequently, like the image that they're badass bikers, but put 300 miles/yr on the bike (not counting trailer miles). The problem is that you think Harley riders (and probably everyone else in the world) is trying to impress YOU. How izzit that so many of you Buell riders think us Harley riders are doing what we do, riding what we ride, and wearing what we wear, to impress YOU? Flash: We don't give a rip about what YOU think. We're just like you: We ride to ride. FB | ||
| Danger_dave |
I talk to them all the time, it's got to the stage that if there is a group of bikers here one will know me, (small pond and I make a lot of racket). Have even ridden with the HOG group. All I've met is folks that like their motorcycles. Some of their fashion sense is ordinary. Most of them ride every chance they get. I'm actually yet to meet the 300 mile per year badass. Maybe Aus and NZ are different. Maybe it's because I don't walk in and tell them bikes are crap too. | ||
| Big_red_79 |
aside from the posting of the link issue and the bashing of Harley riders, a touch screen display would be useful on a motorcycle, along with regular gauges, it would be awesome for diagnostics, fuel data, and even built in GPS, | ||
| Danger_dave |
You can get an proper iPhone mount for just there. I had a link but can't find it. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
He did say SOME Harley riders.. As far as the link if it's a fake iphone that's funny. But That's a great idea and good spot to put one. I have a droid x mount on my bike. Great for gps, tunes and surfing the badweb when i stop.. | ||
| Danger_dave |
I was pointing at the article writer. Will see if I can find the link. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
more of this shit.... one reason my visits here are less and less.... | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
It was posted online, so that means the article has to be factual. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Bit of a sore spot the Ferris??? Thought the winter bickering season was over---just go ride you guys. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
FMJ: Bit of a sore spot the Ferris??? Nah, just doing the same thing I'd do if I was on a Harley-oriented site and someone was taking cheap shots at Buell owners. Oddly (or not), I don't hang out on Harley-oriented sites nor have never posted on one. Still here at BWB, after all these years. Maybe I should go play somewhere else? Some pretty insulting, know-it-all stuff was just said on another thread about Harleys and Harley riders. I asked the OP what experience he was basing his comments on. "I've test ridden several and come away unimpressed with all of them, including the XR1200." So, here's a guy who's got it all figured out re: Harley-Davidson. He's got all the answers, for not only the bikes, but the riders. Not bad from several frikkin' test rides. "Go ride" you say? Turned over 52k on the Road King in Tennessee last weekend. Not gonna win any trophies for that kinda mileage, but considering I w*rk six days a week - and since I w*rk from home, exactly ZERO of those miles are commute miles - I think I'm getting out and riding a little bit. Speaking of which, I gotta run: Me 'n D are off to rack up s'more s'miles on the RK today. Hope you're well. See you at Big Jim's Ride?? FB PS: I test rode an XR1200 last year. Awesome little hot rod, IMO. I could be wrong, though - it was just a test ride...  | ||
| Andymnelson |
I have never owned an HD, nor have I ever had the desire to. They simply don't excite me. However, I am embarrassed when Buellers try to bash them...it always seems so low and petty. The months following the SouthPark episode were particularly embarrassing. Sure, it was a funny episode...but I find no humor in actually calling someone a fag because of the bike they ride. | ||
| Syonyk |
Since I seem to have pissed Ferris off... You're saying that my opinions on why I won't buy a Harley are invalid because I don't own a Harley? Wouldn't it make sense to listen to the opinions of people who *don't* own a particular brand of bike if trying to figure out how something could change for the better? I have test ridden quite a few Harleys. I test rode more yesterday, and I remain unimpressed with a single one I've ridden. The V-Rod is a neat concept, except the "feet forward" position makes it very difficult to ride, and makes it rather easy to "drag heel" in cornering. Also, for what is supposed to be a "muscle bike," it's slow. It's a fast Harley, but it's still a slow motorcycle. Harley doesn't make anything exciting. If you get rid of the brand name and look at the motorcycles as motorcycles, not as Harleys, they don't make particularly good motorcycles. I'd *rather* see Harley build excellent bikes! I like the idea of American motorcycles being good on a global scale. I don't see Harley doing this now, and I don't see any signs they want to shift their direction to do it. They're happy pumping out belt buckles, shot glasses, and other lifestyle garbage instead of building a motorcycle that can compete on its own merits with other motorcycles. I'd love to be able to buy a V-Rod, and have it be properly fast compared to other bikes. American Muscle and all - the fact that it doesn't corner that well doesn't matter to me if it's fast as stink in a straight line. Build a V-rod that is long, low, and will smoke anything else in a straight line, and that's a properly good motorcycle by some metrics. And re the XR1200, I've ridden one. I was unimpressed. Yes, it's a good handling Harley, but it's still not that great compared to any other bikes trying to fit the "standard that handles" category. | ||
| Court |
I rather doubt you've pissed him off ...... He's capable of a debate with folks who hold opinions not aligned with those he holds I think he's pointing out that being able to hold an opinion falls short of stating facts, based on experience. I owned many Harley-Davidsons including an XLCR and an XR-1000. They were all fun then. Harley-Davidson was a vibrant company and I became friends (in fact rode cross country with him on my FLHTC) with their CEO. The Harley he and I both knew is long gone .....and I've no desire, on any level to own one. I'm aware my opinion is not typical. | ||
| Syonyk |
That's quite fair. I have no experience with that version of HD. I've pretty much only seen the late Buell era version, which I understand is after the passion disappeared. So I simply see a company that doesn't seem to fully understand what they're doing, trying to go through the motions of that which was once stunningly successful, not understanding that things have changed from the 80s/90s. I'm a younger rider (29) with a good bit of disposable income (if I felt a desire to, I could easily afford a Harley), so it would *seem* that I'm an ideal target audience. Every other motorcycle company has several bikes that appeal to me - except Harley. I keep trying to find one that I consider a good bike, and I have ridden a good number over the past few years, but none of them appeal to me. | ||
| Moxnix |
There goes Fat Bob on his Fatbob. Or, Fat Boy on his Fat Boy. My Euro bike friends have been dissing H-D products forever. Still do. No big deal. Big Twin riders used to dis any of their friends who rode Sportsters. Nothing new under the sun. | ||
| Nm5150 |
My lifestyle is a rider."i yam what I yam!"(Popeye}I have gone from my XR75 that I got spanked on when the RM80 came out to a CB750Four to all kind of bikes the last three being a '84 GPz1100,Multistrada and now Peggy(1125R).The wife and I rented an Ultra Classic in CO a few years back and I think my next ride will be a Road King with a stereo and cruise control.I don't see me ever not having a Buell and am kind of amused at people that buy into a rider lifestyle when they have the cash to go buy a new bike and all of the stuff they see as "cool" and decide they are a biker.I have run with everyone from Bandidos to squids and all I ask of a fellow rider is to be real.I have strafed French Canadians and towed a Harley custom home with my Honda and the people I ride with have one thing in comon.We ride because we like to and try not to be assholes.If you want a fake phone on your bike that is fine with me.Just don't tell me fake stories about how your imagined biker buddies will kick my ass if I diss you. | ||
| 04buell |
from the mrs. i had a custom sportster 1200 before I got my lightening long. Loved it. It was the 1st year they were rubber mounted. I just got a back ache when I rode long distances so I traded for the Buell because it was more comfortable. WARNING THOUGH for those of you that like the gadgets. When I had my bad wreck a couple weeks ago in Tennessee, I think a big part of WHY I rear ended Jerry was because I was listening to a book on my IPOD and I was zoned out on it instead of paying attention to what was going on around me. Carol | ||
| Danger_dave |
There are several current Harleys I would like to add to my collection. That Road King is one of them. I could ride the wheels off that baby. I'd jack it up a bit for some more clearance, pull a little bit of baffle out and ride it. There's a couple of models that haven't pushed my buttons style-wise, but the product currently is the best it's ever been. Maybe I need to move into accounting instead of riding for a living. Mwahahahahahaha! | ||
| Danger_dave |
Road Kings don't have a stereo. Ultras and Street Glide do. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
My brother a radio junkie put a radio on his road king. There are kits you can buy. He has XM and a mp3 player hooked up. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Since I seem to have pissed Ferris off... You're saying that my opinions on why I won't buy a Harley are invalid because I don't own a Harley? You haven't pissed me off. You insulted me, and every other Harley rider, in your other post. If you want, I'll count the number of swings you took at Harleys and Harley riders before you finally got around to making a very weak point. Why weak? Because you profess to know exactly what Harley-Davidson needs to do to build a motorcycle that will live up to your expectations, yet you have virtually no real experience with Harley-Davidson. Your opinions, while I respect the fact that you have some and are more that entitled to express them here, are no more valid that a Japanese sportbike rider coming here to BadWeB and dissing Buell motorcycles and Buell riders based on a test ride or two. Perhaps I've pissed you off? If you had asked your questions in an earnest, respectful manner, you'd have, in turn, my respect. Your post, IMO, is intentionally disrespectful and insulting. Why? Ah, that's a question only you can answer, sir. I have a ton of experience on Buells and Harleys. You have "some" experience on a Buell, and considerably less on Harleys. And I called you on it, is all. Take care, FB PS: Regarding the XR1200, I'm going to humor myself and see if I can find a link to an editorial by Jack Lewis in the November 2010 Motorcyclist magazine. It has to do, a little, with the XR. It has a LOT more to do with where your head's at as a rider. It's one of the best moto-related "zen" pieces I've ever read. Perhaps Mr. Lewis' wordsmithery will pry open your mind, young grasshopper... | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Voila! ************************************ Up to Speed Behind Bars - The Last Real Sportbike From the November, 2010 issue of Motorcyclist By Jack Lewis "There's a world of difference between truth and facts. Facts can obscure the truth." -Maya Angelou When I was short, my dad owned the fastest car in the world. He would hop in the vintage 1917 Model T Touring, advance the timing and engage a series of levers, concentrating like a zeppelin pilot in a crosswind. When we putted off on our tall tires, the wind blew through us like destiny. Once on the Columbia River Highway a hotshot pulled alongside us in his new, red Caddy convertible. My fighter-pilot dad looked down at him and bellowed, "Wanna race?" Disarmed, the guy smiled and waved us on ahead. I knew it was because we had the fastest car. Less wise at 18, I wasn't too impressed with mom's new boyfriend-and even less so after I saw his bike. The weak-kneed old crock had a tractor seat, sand-cast cases and heads that peered out from their puny-bore cylinders like shy kittens. When he stepped on the foot starter, it commenced a rhythmic little cough, like a Thames River launch shuttling petticoats and picnic baskets. I knew for a fact that my shaggy, dented Yamaha RD400 would flat bury that old thing. I ran Dunlop K81 TT100s, the most badass street rubber you could buy... Thirty years on, with at least one bike that's closer akin to his lovely black BMW R75/2 than to my beloved two-smoke ratfighter, I incline more toward Ken Kesey's view: "To hell with facts! We need stories!" If your motorcycle has no stories to tell, it's not much of a bike. Doesn't really matter how fast your "sportbike" is if you can't put up competitive stories-per-mile numbers. Sportbikes aren't sport bikes anymore. You've most likely never seen, let alone ridden, a proper sport bike. No, your race-rep doesn't count, even if four out of five shoot-outs prefer it for dominating adversaries, attracting the opposite sex and reducing cavities. When "sports cars" came to this country from Britain, they were a revelation to the oversprung, overpowered American market. Fun, affordable and more than a little bit impractical, they had a Palinesque relationship to weary facts and a strong association with pure, frolicsome fantasy. Any car that encourages you to wear goggles and stringback gloves is a high-quality dream-feeder. Corvette jockeys regularly stomped Triumph Spitfires and Austin Healey Sprites into the cold patch at racetracks, and wondered why the sporty car pilots wouldn't stop giggling. Aircraft are similar. Speed is irrelevant to sport aviation because, as Daedulus knew, flying low and slow is where the action is. Wicked-fast, hugely sophisticated and cosmically expensive, Learjets are also boring as a bus. Or a 'Busa. What fun is a bike that's so far beyond your capabilities (yeah, I'm lookin' at you) that you'll never tap its potential on real roads? Where's the fierce joy in hopping-up a bike that's so carefully developed you'll probably end up degrading its performance? This summer, I was graced with the opportunity to ride next year's Harley-Davidsons. Now, I'm not a Harley guy. Turns out, though, Harley makes one hell of a sport bike. Getting "lost" from the group let me skip out on the afternoon photo session and spend a glorious 40 minutes or so tear-assing through bent forest roads with a pretty blonde wheeling a bright-red Mustang in hot pursuit. Mustangs aren't the fastest cars out there, and the XR1200X isn't a real fast bike, but they both slide sweetly. They tell you stories. They feed your dreams. Like a good book, I wanted that road to wind on much farther than it did. It was a lovely fantasy of snarling speed, punctuated by occasional moments of grace ... and barely any fear. Imperfect though it may be, the lanky XR talked to me like a Stearman's stick. It made me use technique over horsepower, engage body mechanics instead of depending on highly optimized chassis dynamics. The bike and I, we made each other sweat. The girl and I, we riffed harder on the laws of physics than we bent the rules of the road. By the time we burst out of those sun-dappled curves feeding one-lane bridges between disordered ranks of salmonberries and coastal pine, my riding boots were evenly beveled and that fine girl wore a high flush in her cheeks that had shag-all to do with sunburn. You can't have much more sport than that and still be welcomed home. That's the kind of dance I can appreciate. That's the sport I love. |
