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Pkforbes87
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you don't want to watch all 40+ minutes, just watch #4.

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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn he's smart.

Even if half of it is the speech writers, his ability to personalize and keep it coherent, is a real skill, and probably why he is a master politician.
EZ
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Watched the 4th part. Now to watch 'em all.
First time I've ever really heard a (then) Presidential canidate speak of religion with any common sense.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really don't like ANY president of the United States preaching to me about religion. I don't care what he had to say... I do not need to know his opinion. Sorry, couldn't watch more than 30 seconds of it.

I would rather click this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0&feature =youtu.be
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Kenm123t
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ez bought a lot of used cars ? typical attoney BS.how did Hillary say it all hat No Cattle?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL - yes I have bought a lot of used cars, so have most folks, I say your missing something, if you think this is just about religion, it is about diversity, and America's ability to stand together even though we are so diverse. Religion is a good example because it is such a touchy subject, and he dealt with that in good form...really not declaring myself an Obama fan, however, I have noticed that people foolishly underestimate him, and his abilities, and because of this are always one step behind his next action, in reaction. He's definitely upped the Demm's game, where are the sharp young Repub's to curb and balance his rhetoric - I see none taking up the gauntlet so far -
EZ
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Kenm123t
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ez the problem he does not believe what he says it was a speech some one else wrote for him. I recognize evil when I see it. It always presented as polished pretty and attractive. His actions and attitudes speak volumes. As for him being in the leaderhip game kinda hard when your always on vacation he has played more golf in two years than Eisenower played in eight!

The best man to be President in 2012 is John Bolton.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You want people to respond to a 2 year old pre-election speech from a church?? Your right though, he does seem to be more intelligent "pre-election" then at present. I knew he would swing right to try and get re-elected but it won't work. I do know he likes pie... Pecan pie..., I think.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nicely written speech.
I tire of the echo chamber special effects, but it's a trademark, and anyone else doing so would, rightly, be accused of copying. Like Tommy Chong, He did it best, first, and anyone else faking brain damaged hippie, or zeuslike thunderous voices, will be a poser.

As to content? subtle. Well crafted. But I am aware of a disturbing fact.

There are, AFAIK. only 2 mainstream faiths that permit, and even encourage, dishonesty about your faith.

President Obama was raised in one, and converted to the other. He loves the call to prayer of the first like no other sound. ( he says so ) I think he loves the second even more, but my guess as to why certainly would differ from his ghost written autobiographies. ( I've read both.... also Hillary's College Thesis, which I recommend to any voter. Obama's is Not Available. )

In the faith he was raised in, it was, originally, a lesson learned from the Jews, who suffer terrible persecution for their faith, and refusal to deny it. So The Prophet decreed that his followers could deny their faith in public, to spare their & their families lives. His followers were not popular in much of the Medieval world, because of the warlike nature of The Prophet & his teachings, and the intolerance built into them. Intolerance is not a monopoly. Some later teachers of that faith broadened the permission to lie (about your faith) to it being permissible to lie to unbelievers, if it advanced the faith. In this they anticipated Obama's second, and current faith by hundreds of years.

So, his preaching of tolerance, and reason, mixed with sneering, self serving hatred, leaves me a bit cold.

90% good message, 9% filler, 1% bile. Contents may settle during transport.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lame.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not only lame, irritating. Pontificating arrogant lecturer. Blah, blah, blah, listen to me, blah, blah.

I guess it's tough to take when I don't respect the man. He's lied too many times.
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Eaton_corners
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He needs to review a little American history.

My computer made it look like an overdub. In other words, video did not match audio very well.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.slate.com/id/2290306/

How dispiriting to see, once again, the footage of theocratic rage in Kandahar and Mazar-i-Sharif. The same old dreary formula: self-righteous frenzy married to a neurotic need to take offense; the easy resort to indiscriminate violence and cruelty; the promulgation of makeshift fatwas by mullahs on the make; those writhing mustaches framing crude slogans of piety and hatred, and yelling for death as if on first-name terms with the Almighty. The spilling of blood and the spoliation of property—all for nothing, and ostensibly "provoked" by the corny, brainless antics of a devout American nonentity, notice of whose mere existence is beneath the dignity of any thinking person

Not drawing any lines, just thought a comment on faith by am athiest might provoke some thought. I tend to agree with Hitchens on the fine customs of the region.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Conviction . . . from a guy who voted nothing but "present" during the entire time he was in Congress?

Yeah . . right.

Lying sack of shit.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, I think you are being a bit harsh in your criticism of BO. BO wasn't lying, he really was present when he voted in Congress.

I agree with others that it's an old election speech. We know he gives good teleprompter. We've also seen his actions (at least those who have paid any attention). Actions speak much louder than words for me. It is wrong to deny the philosophy this nation was founded on (1st 15 seconds of the 4th video). That was all I needed to see.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No body knows what obama is everything is sealed. Sounds like some one has a lot to hide. Can any of you get your records sealed? if so how? The Dan Rathers etc tried to remake letters on GWBs military service. How did we allow some one with no vitae to be president? I work as a contractor on government projects I couldnt get him on site as janitor! with so little background available. If he was proud of his academic record why is he hiding it ? The longer its hidden the worse the outcome.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>BO wasn't lying, he really was present when he voted in Congress.


I stand corrected . . . he was then, as now, present. . . albeit ineffective.

We deserve better leaders.
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Spank
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, you never know...we could get Trump on the next "go-around"!
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Cowboy
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

#1 Neighborhood watch?
#2 A man that has made Millions $$$$$$$>
We are broke we need MONEY.
It seems a easy choise to me.














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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe I remarked in 2008 that Obama was an empty suit.

I stand firmly by that assessment.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kenm123t,
It's true, Obama could not get clearance to be a radio operator in the navy, because of the utter lack of documentation as to grades, etc. and the people he has associated with. He still has the little plastic card that launches the nukes.

As to his faith, he has spoken, and I see no reason to disbelieve him.

He is, from the view of a Muslim, an Apostate. Therefore under sentence of death. Now, that's by Their laws, not mine. His Father ( per Obama ) was Muslim, therefor he is Muslim. bullfeathers. His Mother was White, therefore he is white. ( law in hawaii at time of birth ) also bullfeathers.

This is America. You are what you choose to be. Jim Crow laws, racial laws "one drop of blood" ( all democrat party priorities ) all bullfeathers. Nonsense, lies and hatred.

Barack Obama joined Rev. Wrights Church, and converted to that faith. 20 years in that Church. True, it's the church to be in for someone in Chicago wanting to get connected to the leftist, black, connected community. That is without doubt why he chose to attend, at first. ( In his biography ) But he felt a strong moral calling for rev. Wright's Church, and now claims that teaching as his faith.

I believe him. His faith is Liberation Theology, subset American Black Urban.

His faith is condemned by his Holiness the Pope as "Demonic". I'm not fond of it either. I prefer wiccans.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/tag/tsa-agent-fire d/

I believe wiccans have killed far fewer people they disagree with. Marxists have murdered hundreds of millions. You chose.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Want to know where this thing is headed ?
NEP Lenin, 1921-1925; and the subsequent fun Stalin got to have from say 27 onward.

Maybe if they quit using Marx, Hegel, Engels, Mao, Gueverra as role models.....

They are knocking out the chapters like mile markers, they have already done the first round of 'nationalization' and kollectivization - they just called it Stimulus...
It gets much worse before it gets better. The next big round is a reevaluation and a 'reissue of the currency' with in 5 years.

I would love to say I'm wrong. come back in 5 years, .... I bet I am not that far off the mark.

Should have recognized it when his campaign iconograpy took on the Soviet State Realism look to it. The have been grooming this cult of personality since day one.
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