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Ohsoslow
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2011 - 12:35 pm: | 
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the DDEC VI series 60 are good engines, the DD15 and 13's are monsters for power but they are expensive to fix and a pain in the ass to work on.
if i had to get and engine it would be the new CM2250 ISX basically the same ISX as the CM871 just with the SCR and a few other differences. easy to work on and gobs of power.
luftkoph, if you ever get the chance take a cascadia out for a spin, Freightliner has really stepped up with this truck. being that you are an "old school" driver you probably still wont like it though. 379's are great trucks just dated IMO. |
Cowboy
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2011 - 02:09 pm: |
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Att, Mr. Grumpy I was using V8-92 T first I had to be able to have a 450 hp motor next I had to be able to lift it with helicopter next I was pulling 3 hyd pumps off each can tower and 3 off main shaft. all 9 pumps were large pumps total fluid was 300 GPM (could not use gear box as it would add to much weight) Detroit (GM) was the only company that could meet these spects. and they aare very tuff I have ran the for as much full throtle gor up to 60 days and nights before shuting them down. |
Luftkoph
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2011 - 05:25 pm: |
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natexlh1000 Mack made v8's in the late sixties and early seventies then another version called the e9 also Cummins made v8 called the 903 and some people put 3408 crank a pillars in trucks |
Luftkoph
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2011 - 05:45 pm: |
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ohsoslow we had a test cascadia at work tho I never bothered to drive it, but a w900 driving buddy of mine did and I asked him is the windshield washer still piss poor and only get the bottom of the windshield wet? Yup did the left upper corner of the windshield freeze up and lift the wiper off the glass? Yup is the switch gear still more than an arms length away? yup nothing much changed then in the last 12 years? nope. |
Crusty
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2011 - 09:59 pm: |
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A MAN!!!
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Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 04:08 am: |
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Cowboy, I can see how the Detroit fit your needs.
I've only ever driven a couple of Detroits, once when picking up an ex AAFES white from auction for a guy I used to know, & also in an old Bedford TM.
The White was a flyer with a Fuller 9 in it but the cab design was awful, you couldn't get in the without barking your shin, the seat wouldn't adjust to any driving position other than that for a gorilla & the gear lever trapped your knuckles every time you selected 3rd or 7th.
The Bedford I drove was old in the late '80s, a rare ex demo with an Allison Auto, it was well used & rough when I drove it but it flew.
Main memories are the awesome noise & the horrendous fuel consumption. |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 04:16 am: |
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For those of you in the biz who may be interested, here's a link to the basic operating rules for driving hours etc.
It's head exploding stuff, be warned.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/freight/road/workingtime /drivershoursgoods.pdf |
Luftkoph
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 04:59 am: |
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I just get a grey screen with that link
yes indeed those 2 smoke de-toilets were loud had one in a 72 autocar with twice pipes no mufflers,you could hear that thing in your ears even after you went home,fuel consumption,nobody cared back then. |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 08:17 am: |
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It's a pdf, you have to wait for it to load. |
Tq_freak
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 10:05 am: |
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luftkoph, if you ever get the chance take a Cascadia out for a spin, Freightliner has really stepped up with this truck
+1
I work for DTNA (formally freightliner LLC.)
although I dont do the design work for the class 8's I have driver a few and the Cascadia is a really nice truck, they are doing a good job of getting rid of the "freight shacker" nick name.
I use to do design work for the big Motorhome and tour coach chassis's but I switched to out testing and development group.....I get paid to break stuff\clipart
{bigwink
If you guys have some SCR and DEF questions let me know, I deal with a bunch of that stuff} |
Ohsoslow
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 01:54 am: |
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TQ, arent they getting rid of DTNA? thats what my boss was saying the other day. i work at a Freightliner steelership. do you have a specific line of trucks that you work with? |
Lemonchili_x1
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 07:21 am: |
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Nice MAN Mr_g! Hope you two are getting on well 
Tell me... That's 680hp and 40tonne GCM, right? What sort of hp would you normally have for 90tonne GCM?
I ask because when I was in the US I noticed that the trucks I saw seemed to run noticeably smaller loads/trailers than here... and the traffic sure seemed to get to speed a lot quicker!
From what I've read it's pretty typical here for a prime mover rated for 75 or 90 tonnes to run a 550 or 600hp power plant. It could be the 90,000kg rating only applies to B-double setups, but they are very common here, and are allowed in metropolitan areas, and they don't do the traffic flow any favours when fully loaded. |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 03:57 pm: |
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Maximum weight in Europe is 44t but only for multimodal purposes such as containers from/to docks & railheads. There's a debate going on about extending it to general haulage too but running 3 axle tractors.
General opinion is that the extra gain won't cover the cost of purchase, tyres, etc. due to the fact that a lot the increase in gross weight will be eaten up by the increased tare weight of a compliant tractor.
You'll see a few B-double setups here in France but only pulling 2 20ft containers or light goods in short box trailers.
We just don't have the space for anything much bigger here.
There was talk a couple of years back of extending the rules so that you could run & 6 leg rigid pulling a dolly with a std semi-trailer, but it's come to nothing so far. |
Luftkoph
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 09:22 pm: |
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Mr_grumpy
looking over those regulations I was wondering if most drivers in the eu are paid hourly?
We have different weight laws here in michigan than most of the rest of the states,we can run up to 11 axles and 164,000 lbs gross on a 50 foot straight trailer or 28.5 foot 5 axle lead and a 28.5 foot 3 axle pup or many other combinations |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 04:41 am: |
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Doug, most EU drivers are paid hourly, however it depends which country you work in.
The former EastBloc states which are now part of the EU have much lower cost of living & pay so many transport firms employ drivers from those countries at lower scales than their own nationals will work for.
Not the case in France as pay scales are nationally negotiated with the unions, subject to regional weightings.
Many European transporters have set up subsidiaries in those countries to get around the pay & tax rules.
One of the problems is that the driver training standards are either poor or non-existant, & another is fraud & theft.
Example, driver comes from Poland or wherever does a month running then flies home for a week.
Truck goes in for service while he's gone, & the garage find that instead of the 6 month old 100,000 km 440 lump it's had a swap & has a clapped out 400 in it's place.
Needless to say the driver is never seen or heard of again.
One place I worked, truck was in for service & I was loafing in the office when a Hungarian driver came looking for a job, but his licence only entitled him to drive rigids up to 12tonne gross.
The boss said sorry but no as he needed drivers for otr semis. Two hours later the guy was back with the right licence & was very put out that he didn't get a job.
I told the boss he should have taken him as anybody who can get to Hungary & back that fast...
He grinned & told me "f*** off & see if the spanner's have finished."
It's a cut-throat business & always has been.
That said, for all the inconvenience of the plethora of stupid & contradictory rules & regs, it's a better & safer working environment than ever it was when I started. |
Luftkoph
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 06:44 pm: |
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Innes
glad to hear it's not all roses over there also.
I got out of the OTR stuff a year and a half ago,now I only go no further than 16 miles from home,the writing has been on the wall for long time what the federal govt. wants to do to trucking and with the way most are paid here I want no part of it.
It use to be actually a fun job riding around the country nobody really bothered you,but now every s.o.b. with a badge wants in your wallet and mostly for chicken sh*t stuff |
Tq_freak
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 08:50 pm: |
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Ohsoslow - Sorry for the delay
I work for Freightliner Custom Chassis- we do only chassis for schoolbus's, Motorhomes, and walk in van's
DTNA is here to stay as far as I know. Daimler trucks north america is the parent branch of my company, freightliner, western star and Thomas built Bus. The only thing that was ditched during the "down turn" was the Sterling truck line. |
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