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Davegess
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is not a good thing. I certainly never thought of this but it bothers me. We don't need Facebook and Google reinforcing our preconceptions and bias. We need less tailored results not more. Anyone have a search engine that doesn't tailor searches to my previous searches?

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/03/eli-pariser -at-ted/
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to change my homepage on the office computer from Google. Now, I click the Yahoo link on the favorites for mail and search, as I just want to avoid being in the Google life management system.

It is troubling, manipulating us all into the Law of Infinite Cornucopia and narrowing information sources, shrinking our world view.

Of course, if we recognize the manipulation, which many people won't, we'll be okay. Thanks for the link.
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Geforce
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like Google, in the fact that they innovate things and create very cool stuff... I am growing increasingly tired of their privacy violations, ads, and dictation.
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Court
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I am growing increasingly tired of their privacy violations, ads, and dictation.

Precisely my take. I'm using them less and confess a growing fascination for a couple folks I know who have ditched their cellphones all together.

Little disturbing to know that someone knows where you are, what you are saying, who you are communicating with at every second.
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very interesting detailed discussion on Search Engine Watch:

http://searchenginewatch.com/2189531
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In the link to Search Engine Watch - it is worth noting that in the case of Yahoo - people still are sucked into posting personal information where not required... leaving themselves more "open"

I'm still amazed that people actually post their REAL birth days, addresses, spouses/children's names, etc.

Heck, if it's not REQUIRED, do NOT put real info anywhere.

I'm online as my real name but born on April Fools Day, 1913. Children are Esmerelda and Ignatius - and on Facebook, I also noted that they were sold to a Gypsy band.

Yeah, there is still too much personal info that folks freely offer up online but Google isn't necessarily any more invasive than you allow them to be.

Cookies? I aint a-skeerd of no cookies.

(but still gotta do more reading - the whole privacy thing is a hobby)
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Geforce
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It has been rather sad to watch the decay of the internet in the last few years in the form of spam, bots, advertising and various forms of malicious software. I remember a time when Yahoo Chat was fun, and there were real people on it. I also remember a time when I could visit websites and not be attacked by ridiculous advertisements and have to claw my way through ads to read text...

The internet is an amazing thing, I understand the need to advertise, I also, occasionally enjoy looking at advertisements when I am browsing or searching for something, I just HATE being force fed advertisements. I have enjoyed using Google as a search provider for many years due its simple design and nature. The browser takes a second to open and load the page... no silly weather data, no login, no hunting for the confounded search bar. *sigh*

You just can't have your cake and eat it to. The internet has expanded so rapidly with information and services... I don't wish for that to end, just a little restraint on the ads that get crammed down your throat.
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Fahren
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The use of proxy search engines can avoid a lot of invasion into your privacy.

As an example of how search engines store your personal habits and data, take a look at the part of the link below where it invites you to check out a history of AOL users' search results that were accidentally made public: you can see what users searched for something, and then click on the user to see what else he/she searched for! Scary:

http://us2.ixquick.com/eng/protect-privacy.html

Searching through ixquick, or its US branch, startpage, allow you to click directly to a site if you want to be recognized (your bank, badweb, etc), or you can view a site through their proxy, where no data about you can be gleaned by the web site you are viewing.

We should all be concerned about privacy in the web age; using a proxy site is a good start to limiting the data that google, yahoo and others collect about you.


I don't see where anything can be gained by spreading out personal information of any kind out where it can be collected, analyzed and shared or spied upon.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do searches in a "new incognito window"
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