| Author | Message | ||
     F22raptor |
I,just for fun,bought a "cheap-Chinese" C.R G rip-off copy shorty brake lever for my Buell...I figured for $30 shipped,W.T.F. I got it yesterday,and I can say this with alot of experience,it is way better then the $100 lever it was meant to copy..Aircraft grade hardware,perfect machine work from billet.Why does this piss me off,as I should be happy to get such a bargain..It is the fact that they realize they can never beat us militarily,but,bleed us to death over a 100 years and they win.The lever probably cost over $100 to make and ship,but that is cheap compared to a F22's price. So do we shop and save or do we pay more to support our businesses? The worst part is,C.R.G. probably gets there stuff from there! | ||
| Rwven |
I bought a set of those levers too. I felt a twinge of the sentiment you express also. Then I looked at the "Made In China" stamped on the wheels of my Uly.... | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
'The lever probably cost over $100 to make and ship' Do you really think that? Do you really think they just tooka $70 hit on selling you that lever? Really?? Its been brought up in the 1125 section many times. yes, it sucks we send business overseas, but its just how it is. Buy what you can American to help support, but personally Im not going to spend 3X as much on the exact same product | ||
| Trojan |
Take your new shiny lever to peices and see if it has the same quality bearings in the adjuster mechanism as CRG? (I can guarantee you it won't!) Compare the grade of aluminium used to make it. Take a look at it in 12 months time and measure the slop and free play in the lever compared to a quality CRG/LSL/Braking/ASV product. Try and claim under the non existent warranty or contact the vendor when it sends you flying over the bars/snaps in your hand/falls to pieces(tick as applicable)  Take a look in the mirror next time a factory near you closes down  | ||
| Guell |
Problem with the Chinese products is that they are all ripoffs, all they do is buy a set of crg's or pazzos and copy the design and sell it for dirt cheap. Most Chinese made goods I've seen arnt of the highest quality and for the price I would expect that. Another issue is that enough people start buying these and not the American products, then the American companies won't produce new items for our bikes. Then Chinese companies won't have anything to copy and I wouldn't expect a companies that churns out 25 dollar levers to put any r&d into anything. I'm all for cheaper costing parts but is rather keep the aftermarket for our bikes alive | ||
| Macbuell |
I love my CRG levers. Don't regret the money i spent on them for a second. | ||
| Cowboy |
I would think they are better as they dont have to skimp on quality to pay a bunch of union people. | ||
| F22raptor |
I guess most of you missed the point I was trying to make...Vizio T.V.s are high quality units,but use "borrowed"copies of components that the R+D was done elsewhere..I stated the I have a C.R.G lever I bought for $100,and the fact that someone copied it(Yes the quality is that good) is what pisses me off,get it? (Message edited by f22raptor on March 02, 2011) | ||
| Sayitaintso |
brian, that is one of the big problems with shipping production to china.... They have the production capabilities, but not the design....if you hand them the design, it only makes sense that "bootleg" copies are going to start showing up. Until they start losing their own work in R&D/intelectual property to others (i.e. India) they are not going to care. | ||
| Bwbhighspl |
It won't be long before the US is making the bootleg copies of the Chinese work. http://features.techworld.com/sme/3230431/five-rea sons-china-will-take-world-tech-leadership/ Which reminds me of the house of glass: http://www.goenglish.com/peoplewholiveinglasshouse sshouldnotthrowstones.asp Why will we be copying them? The Chinese government is pushing their people to go into tech fields. Here in the US we have people who complain that their liberal arts degree won't pay their $150,000 student loan. https://thisiswhyubroke.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/m ommy-i-wanna-major-in-dumb-sht-when-i-grow-up/ I've said it before, if you really want to support only American, then move all your retirement investments to US companies. Only choose mutual funds that exclude foreign entities. In theory, you'd be transferring hundreds of thousands of dollars back to the US. Let them keep their $30 lever, move some money that matters. So, yes, look in the mirror the next time you want to complain that the US is faltering. But it's not because of a lever or any other "knock off" parts. It's because of you. (Before you say "I only invest in US soil", I ask, are you in mutual funds? Do you even know where it's invested? And if you do, are you an outlier? Because most people wouldn't know -- they just choose the "I retire in 20 years" investment option....and that has China in it.) | ||
| Brettx1 |
Cowboy, do you honestly think the Chinese don't skimp on quality because they don't have unions, or are you just trolling?! | ||
| Sayitaintso |
I thought it was funny that anyone would be saying that the Chinese dont skimp on quality. | ||
| Jon |
Right on, Trojan. Takes a Brit to tell an American about buying Chinese I guess. So be it. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
It does suck they don't have to pay for R and D. That's the most expensive part ogf it I would think. They just come along find a good product somebody paid to develop and market and they copy it. I don't know about the Chinese levers but I have a set of CRG levers that I bought 2nd hand from another badwebber and after 1500 miles on mine and more on hers the work the same as when new. But like f22 said if they are not only going to steal the designs but now make things with quality we're in even bigger trouble | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
if I had the money I would own a pair of asv levers but I can't so I am still with the stock levers...If i broke a stock ever I might buy one of these Chinese cheepos just to keep my bike on the road but one day I will have me some asv levers. |
