| Author | Message | ||
     Trevd |
Up until now I thought they were just going to assemble them there... http://www.indianexpress.com/news/first-outside-us -harleydavidson-to-set-up-mother-plant-in-haryana/ 754059/, | ||
| Court |
If this is a surprise to anyone (it was part of a strategic plan) then I have a bridge I'm looking at out the window I'd like to sell you. Harley-Davidson, in my personal opinion, didn't so much err in trying to meet Indian demand as they did they way they went around it.
I posted that about a year ago when this was nothing more than rumblings. If you start to drill down on both Susan and Kamal you'll find why folks in both India and the U.S. kinda got snookered in this deal. Harley needs to be a global competitor but they've sure surrendered a lot of values and qualities that make . . .well, a Harley a Harley . . to do it. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Manufacturing leaving the US means we can be even greener and focus on more clean jobs. | ||
| Blake |
Unbelievable. | ||
| R100rs |
Manufacturing leaving the US means we can be even greener and focus on more clean jobs. huh? | ||
| Gregtonn |
"Manufacturing leaving the US means we can be even greener and focus on more clean jobs."  True. If greener means spending more green to get less. G | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Yes keep corporate tax rates high and maintain all the red tape and regulation that business must endure plus you can talk about policies that increase energy costs that effectively chase away energy using and polluting manufacturing jobs. Not to mention most harleys burn fuel on purely leisurely activities. If we can shrink our economy and all start living a more frugal life living within our means we can clean up our forests and shores as well as win support around the globe. Were just like any other country and must do our part to lessen our consumption. | ||
| Jpagel |
If a country doesn't "make" anything... then what is its economy based on? We keep shipping our manufacturing out... there won't be anything left here and we'll soon fall from superpower in the world.. oh wait.. that's already happening... selling out to China.. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I have been to several boot camps in my life..... NONE have ever let me take my bike.... just what the happy hell is this ?!?!!? http://www.harley-davidson.in/harley-davidson-indi a-boot-camp.html (yes I was toying with the idea of outsourcing my skills over seas  ) | ||
| Cataract2 |
Is anyone surprised by this? | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Damn. This is bogus as hell. I was really happy about this when it was first brought up (build them here, ship there for final assembly), it seemed like a great thing for all involved - you had HD in America building more bikes for the increase in demand in India, and you had Indian people getting the bike they want at a lower price. Now its good for India and crap for America. Sure, HD execs will do Ok, but it wont help with layoffs etc. Its not going to create any new jobs here and that is BS. F Wandell. | ||
| Asdf |
I do not pretend to know enough about this to claim that it is either good or bad. I have my instincts, but I am often mistaken. What I DO know is that American-made HDs are too expensive to be sold in any significant quantity in Nepal, most of India and most of Asia. The status symbol bike in that part of the world is an old design of the Enfield, which is made under license in India. It is a beautiful bike. The Indian made Enfield is also quite reliable; reportedly more so than the original. A friend of mine loves his Enfield, but if he could afford it, he would REALLY love to own a HD. The most common bike is any model of a "Hero" Honda, made under license in India. The "Heros" are everywhere, and are considered affordable by Nepalese standards. The unlicensed Chinese knock-off bikes, such as the Hondo, (A Honda knock-off, to include the Hondo copy of the Honda emblem) are even cheaper, but the Indian made "Hero" Honda is till the "Standard" and is most common. If HD wishes to gain market share in what is probably the largest motorcycle market in the world, South Asia, it cannot compete in that market with an American made product. HONDA can only compete in that region by having their products (1970's versions of small bikes) made under license in India. Owning a Japanese Honda, instead of a "Hero" is also a bit of prestige and status, but not as classy as owning an Enfield. Whether HD intends to enter the S-Asia market in a significant way, I do not know. Whether HD intends to export from India to Europe or the USA, I do not know. Food for thought... | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Court I understand your post,and I do hope they wont be bringing anything from India here (cutting American jobs more) Like I said, I just hate to see it going down as it is. I was stoked when it was a CKD situation and American jobs were busy making these extra Harleys We'll see what happens, I dont know | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I dont know about cheaper.... XL 883 superlow 550,000.00 INR = 12,154.70 USD XL 883 Iron 650,000.00 INR = 14,364.64 USD Xl 883 R 750,000.00 INR = 16,574.59 USD FLHR Road King 2,245,000.00 INR = 49,613.26 USD feel free to check my math and my conversions, but I am not seeing a 'cheaper' motocycle, I am seeing a competitive advantage to hard currency conversion via exports and probably nice propped tax incentives. http://www.harley-davidson.in/harley-davidson-indi a-emi-calculator.html http://www.xe.com/ucc/ The symbol for INR can be written Rs, IRs, and ₨. |
