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Skinstains
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not sure but it looks like more suspect Buell swag ! Is this legal ? It seems to be the older style pegasus on top of some of the newer style print on a newer shield shaped background !?. Take a close look at the "B" in Buell ?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BUELL-Pegasus-Shiel d-decal-sticker-xb9r-1125r-lightning-/110590208763 ?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19bfb0a afb

(Message edited by skinstains on February 19, 2011)
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Skinstains
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What should we do about this Froggy ?

(Message edited by skinstains on February 19, 2011)
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Skinstains
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is what a real one looks like...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RARE-BUELL-Motorcyc le-Shield-Decal-Logo-Emblem-Sticker-/180626180818? pt=Apparel_Merchandise&hash=item2a0e28cad2 is what a real one looks like...
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Report it. Normally all it takes.

Reported.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Report it (link on advert) I just did.

Surprised to find the thief is right in California. Usually overseas
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahah that is the worst bootleg logo I've ever seen!


quote:

Is this legal ?



Nope.


quote:

What should we do about this Froggy ?




Click the "Report Item" link thats below the sellers location. It asks you a few questions, answer it the best you can, and submit. If a few people do it, Ebay will usually yank the listing. It won't stop someone else from putting up a new one though.


Personally, I don't feel its worth the effort. Harley Davidson is the one that should be going after them, they (used to) pay lawyers to do it.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just report it. If ebay gets enough complaints, they will pull the item
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I reported and sent contact information for HD Trademark Enforcement.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course, by reporting it, you are helping Harley Davidson, the current holder of the copyrights for this stuff, correct?
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not helping Hardley but supporting the integrity of intellectual property in general.

A rip off is a rip off.

Some BP folks should burn for what happened in the Gulf, but that doesn't give me the right to free gas at ARCO that I can re-sell to buddies.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Of course, by reporting it, you are helping Harley Davidson, the current holder of the copyrights for this stuff, correct?

Honesty.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Honesty.



Agreed. Of course, if HD's legal department declines to enforce their rights, that means the rights "up for grabs" for others who might have a real interest in the use of the name at some point, correct?
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Court
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

if HD's legal department declines to enforce their rights, that means the rights "up for grabs" for others who might have a real interest in the use of the name at some point, correct?




In a nutshell . . yes.

If HD, and I send notification every time I see this, doesn't protect the Buell name . . it risks becoming sort of "public domain".

Quite frankly . . I think they could care less.

+1 for the home team.

The good news is that while they may, if they choose, be able to protect BUELL, they have no rights to Erik Buell.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL. Only HD, Disney, and Coke would think it's all about the name and branding, rather than being all about the ***product***.

Call it the flying spaghetti monster if you must, just make it 380 pounds wet, 150 HP, and with as little unsprung and rotational mass is as possible.
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Blackm2
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At this point, I doubt HD legal is going to give a rats ass about a few guys making 75 cents on a decal. Buell was a small part of HD, and they didn't give a crap about them to begin with, you think they would task someone to deal with this?
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Court
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm hoping they don't care or do a thing.

I don't think they'll spend 1 minute on it.

Points for the white shirts.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IIRC we already had a post here from someone that said HD's legal department had been directed not to expend any effort on Buell-related matters.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's correct.

That was by Kevin McPherson, a former attorney with the trademark enforcement group.

More is better.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brilliant Court, I see the plan now. Genius. : )
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Jandj_davis
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2011 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More rip-off items:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120688010330
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/110652111102

Hey, look, more chinese levers!
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Court
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2011 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've reported both.

I, in each case, simply send:


quote:

This is a Harley-Davidson trademark. Call HD Trademark at 414-343-4609.




I also have a copy of the report sent to my e-mail.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2011 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reported all three.
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Ironhead1977
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2011 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court i bet you are a tough chess player

(Message edited by ironhead1977 on February 21, 2011)
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Court
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2011 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahahaha . . insult or a compliment . . whichever it is . . thanks.

The bad news is that I am not smart enough to play chess.

I do like to win. Bad habit that goes bad to sports, business and the USMC.

I'm hard headed as hell.
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Ironhead1977
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was definitely intended as a compliment.
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P47b
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They have more than just those two listings up.

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/adjustable_levers/m.ht ml?_nkw=buell&_sacat=&_odkw=&_osacat=0&bkBtn=&_trk sid=p3911.m270.l1313

H/D doesn't care. After Kevin left, I don't know how many I have sent into H/D and ebay and it never gets taken down.
Anyone that does care I haven't been able to get a hold of yet there at either place.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>After Kevin left, I don't know how many I have sent into H/D and ebay and it never gets taken down.

Perfect.

Thank you for adding that.
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P47b
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe we need to get together on this. Any suggestions?

(Message edited by p47b on February 23, 2011)
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