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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very interesting times. I wonder how this will play out.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We will get to watch first hand ..... thanks the the hero's of media. (and Mark Zuckerberg)

I don't know,,, do you think there will ever be a Disneyland in Egypt?
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's kind of strange. I was able to watch live as Baghdad fell and they tore down the statue of Saddam. Now watching this happen live. Similar sort of jubilance.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only real clear part of the whole thing is that the US looked stupid.

My jaw literally dropped when I heard the gut from the CIA state "The Muslim Brotherhood is a secular organization".

He must have forgotten to do the "Jedi Hand Wave" while he said it...
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My jaw literally dropped when I heard the gut from the CIA state "The Muslim Brotherhood is a secular organization".

That was some serious hoof-in-mouth disease. Beyond that it's a tough call from the US. BO clearly couldn't decide to support one side or the other. They were backed a bit into a corner of choosing between a somewhat cooperative totalitarian government vs. a fledgling democracy.

At this point it is time to offer help to stabilize and move forward to a real democracy. I can't help but think about a certain leader talking about planting the "seed of democracy" in the Arab world. I hope we don't step on the seedling with a giant boot.
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fortunately . . Mubarak gave the United States sufficient time, prior to departing, to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that our pursuits of political correctness has neutered our intelligence community.

Also . . if he'd left a day sooner we'd have had insufficient time for Obama, Biden and Clinton to all release, each in their own way, incredibly stupid statements that were not only factually lacking, but came across with a wonderful "better than the rest of the world" tone.

No kidding . . . I've just moved them from "lacking competence" to "total idiot" status.

If we ever need a favor from anyone in the Middle East we're screwed . . if if we do keep sending them billions of dollars a year in "aid" . . . which, as Mubarak illustrates, pretty much gets pocketed.

We deserve better leaders.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wagers on the next international incident to catch them with their pants down and heads up their azzes ?....
betting on a lil ethnic clensing and terrorism retribution from the Russians into Chechnya/Georgia/Ossetia. A full summer of dead piling corpses.

And in Russia, muslim is secular, it is seen as a nationalistic THREAT to civil order. THEY aint a church.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

at 1:30pm we will hear The Anointed One.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

" to our egyptian friends across the vast oceans I say...your welcome" (insert same old holy moses speech flow patterns we're all used to hearing)
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And the land of the Pharaohs fall to democracy...

Live on the bube tube.

I wonder how much of this is getting through to some of the more hard line Islamic countries.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IT WORKED!!! NOW LETS ALL GO TO WASHINGTON!!!.................
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the easy part. Setting up a stable, democratic, secular government is going to be the tough part. Do they go the way of Turkey or Iran?
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

military rule till september...?
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand the military was starting to fall on the side of the protesters. It's probably a good thing so that you don't wind up with chaos, that simply leaves it open to a power grab.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IT WORKED!!! NOW LETS ALL GO TO WASHINGTON!!!.................

And I do find it interesting that so many people think that this sort of thing could never happen in modern times here in the US. Keep stepping on the Constitution and just see where those who have sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution come down.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea,.. that statement was 1/2 sarcasm. And I know the military is well respected in Egypt.
Military will be making a statement soon, I hope they don't force the people to disperse.

Hey World media and Facebook: Who is next? Jordan?? Saudi Arabia?? IRAN??

Freedom is spreading,.. it seems. I wonder if this the beginning of a totally new Middle Eastern Union.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would seem there has been some delay in getting the teleprompter ready to make a statement. I really hope they don't have some lines written about reaching out to the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok.. i hope obama does'nt sit there and say...we stand behind Egypt thru thick and thin... etc. etc. and so on..... and then within a year Egypt goes and changes the peace treaty with Israel, or worse.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure those in Israel are nervously watching this. I really want to be optimistic about this, but it seems like a coin toss to me. The people have a choice to make at least.

Who's making odds here? Will a mostly Muslim country vote for extremism or peaceful coexistence? Place your bets!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if we do keep sending them billions of dollars a year in "aid"

that money didn't come from China did it??


I caught a little of Morning Joe today... I would love to see Trump run... Maybe he could knock the dust off of Perot
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do they go the way of Turkey or Iran?
That is the question I've on my mind.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heard recently that Turkey is making a radical shift toward fundamentalism.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Love the Bangles. I hear the lead singer is now a professional dominatrix. (How much cash do I have??)

I'm nervous about the "peaceful, seculur" MB that has already assassinated 2 presidents in Egypt, tried several time on others, and wants to rule the world by the Koran. Hoping we get an Ataturk, and not an Ayatollah. pessimistic, but hoping.

This admin's foreign policy actions are making GWB look like a super genius. Between State, Protocol, and Intel.... we really are being laughed at.

That's not even getting to what an ally feels like when he sees how loyal the current U.S. govt. is. ( only to their own ideals... )
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Jon
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mubarek rides a Honda
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Buellinmke
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



"We will not be silenced, whether you're a Christian, whether you're a Muslim, whether you're an atheist, you will demand your god-given rights, and we will have our rights, one way or the other! We will never be silenced!"
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike,

How can you tell the difference between the crowd of a communist revolution and a democratic revolution?

All those Iraqis with purple fingers didn't rate with you huh? Not communist enough for you?
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Support the right to genocide! Keep Saddam in power!
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 05:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And that wasn't a "fake democratic revolution", it was America, Britain and over 30 other coalition allies kicking Saddam Hussein's regime out of power.

Saddam simply murdered those who opposed him, see Halabja for example.

Wise up.
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Cowboy
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

we are in a hell of a fix now. If they close the S canal---Next Algers gose they close the mouth to the med. and just choke Europe to death. The tree hugers have forced our deep waater rigs to go over seas. We are 5 yrs. late now in starting amassave drilling program. Damn those tree huging Liberals. I dont think any one in D C
can see any further a head than thier nose.
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