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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some of us still recognize who our allies are.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346006/Ba rack-Obama-declares-France-biggest-ally-blow-Speci al-Relationship-Britain.html
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Kilroy
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would you expect anything less from the Community Organizer in Chief?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll jump on this bandwagon, both feet first.

I hope that our British brothers can see how completely dissatisfied we are with our Commander in Chief, and will see this irresponsible statement for what it is: COMPLETE BULLSH1T!

This is absolutely shameful.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pwnzor,

One of the first actions this disgusting President took was to throw the bust of Winston Churchill out of the White House.
This was all I ever needed to know about this shameful president. It literally sickens me to see him denigrate one of the greatest men of the 20th century. We are truly embarked on a voyage to a Brave New World.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame rica/usa/barackobama/4623148/Barack-Obama-sends-bu st-of-Winston-Churchill-on-its-way-back-to-Britain .html
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I too would like to say that this is complete bullshit...They have no allies other than those who buy their nuclear knowhow and arms...(spit)...we have more than once been attacked by terrorists equipped with French munitions.

(Message edited by fast1075 on January 12, 2011)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh...my...God...

Tom, I hadn't even heard that story.

My Grandfather is rolling over in his grave right now.
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Britchri10
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fellas.. If you want to curry favor with the French, denigrate Britain.
It's been that way for the last 1,000 years.
I don't take offense at his remarks. I just pity the guy for believing that France can be a better "friend" to the USA than Britain.
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Zane
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wish that silly bugger would check with me before saying something that stupid.

To all of Great Britain: Please accept our apologies for this pathetic excuse for a leader. He does not speak the mind of the majority of America.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What favors do we even need from France?
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When President Reagan retaliated against Libya, our bombers launched from Great Britain but were denied French airspace and added hours and risk to the mission.

With friends like France, who needs enemas?

Disclaimer: I actually like the cowardly French but I don't trust them.
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Britchri10
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Off the top of my head.....
Gauloise cigarettes, runny cheese, a penchant for defeatism & wholesale surrender?
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brithri has it right. sadly a lot of people don't know that. it does smack of disrespect to all of those who earned it. esp those of what we call 'The Greatest Generation'
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Britchri10
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Libya: The F111's from Upper Heyford flew directly over my house en route to Libya. We were used to seeing one or two in the air at a time but that many was exceptional. France denied the F111's use of their airspace, as did Spain. The F111's entered the med by overflying Gibraltar (A British possession).
They came back that way too!
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brithri has it right. sadly a lot of people don't know that. it does smack of disrespect to all of those who earned it. esp those of what we call 'The Greatest Generation'

Not just "The Greatest Generation". They have been our greatest allies (no disrespect intended to other allies) in the conflicts we are currently engaged in. Agree with the conflicts or not, they have staunchly stood by us.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes that is very very true Sifo. that article linked to another about how he also sent the bust of Churchill back too
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder, what is the reaction among the French to this turn in diplomacy?

If he had said "one of our best allies", that might pass. We should remember that it was France who was vital in helping us gain independence, freedom, nationhood. I'll never forget that, but yes, in recent times I cannot see how any nation can be viewed as a better partner/ally to America than the United Kingdom. They did an amazing job in Iraq where France, led by Chirac (indicted criminal), pretty much betrayed America. It will be a long time until the sting of that betrayal is forgotten. If they had joined the coalition forces along with the other 60+ nations, the Iraq war probably would have been averted. Chirac and his greedy cohorts have blood on their hands.

God bless the Brits!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does this mean BO doesn't like Freedom Fries?
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chris, if you ever make it down this way...I know a quaint pub where I will buy you a pint of stout.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

God bless the Brits

Hear, hear!
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know why Obama despises Churchill, don't you? Dreams From My Father, not "of", but "from"; VERY telling. The man is NOT a proponent for the best interests of America.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We should remember that it was France who was vital in helping us gain independence, freedom, nationhood.

Would they have done that if not for the chance to shoot at British soldiers?
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Britchri10
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fast: I'm a bitter drinker but I am a drinker! It is my intention to venture your way sometime this summer.I will try to make one of the TABOO rides this year.
I just need to get the bikes sorted out at the moment!
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Ljm
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In the world of strength sports, we have no genuine, long-term friends besides the Brits. I travel the world and have watched the central European nations undermine, pick away, belittle us at every turn.

We know who our friends are in even this limited situation. The English speaking people stick together. Unfortunately, that doesnt' seem to be the case everywhere.
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Crackhead
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rebuilding of the relationship goes back to President Hoover and Prime Minister MacDonald in the late 1920s. A lot of their meetings and agreements where never documented and unknown to the public/ press due to the meetings out at Rapidan Camp.

Hopefully 90 years will not be undone.
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Jon
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the man has not the grasp of history or reality required to accurately attest who is our greatest ally apparently. Nor does he know what an ally is...apparently.

This type of alternate reality speak is unfortunate and despicable when one man presumes to speak for a country and maligns it's nature.

FWIW, I am half Brit on my mother's side. Her name is Flick. This is sure to get her talking.
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Jon
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Bob's Your Uncle"
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Jon
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

France is OK, too. Not as OK as GB, but let's not bash them for BO's words.
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Buellkowski
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Diplomatic niceties." Listen from 1:18 on.



I think y'all are reading way too much into this, but everyone's entitled to their opinion.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as the Bust of Churchill I agree...it was a gift for G.W.B, Obama replaced it with one of Lincoln... not a big deal IMO. If it makes him feel better so be it.

The "strongest-ally" comment however are a slap in the face to Britain and should not have been said...because it isnt true.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

xdigitalx:

I could not disagree with you more about the bust of Churchill. He has nothing but disdain for our best and most reliable ally. A short time later, this Thing that currently slithers around the White House, sent a questionable IPOD to the Queen with photos of his Inauguration. What an egomaniac.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive &sid=a8vaJD8ktclA
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