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Tbolt_pilot
Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I managed to throw down the shocker during our Squadron photo on Wednesday. The commander wanted a couple of 'goofy' shots of the unit so we obliged.
(Faces of the innocent have been disguised)



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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice!
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't know what a "shocker" hand gesture signifies. I'm thinking a lot of folks don't. I'd seen it plenty; figured it was just some kind of good-natured salute akin to a peace sign. I just looked it up via google.

http://www.google.com/search?q=shocker+hand+gestur e

<sigh>

That's a gesture to be proud of?

Really?

In connection with the armed forces of your country?

Worthy of announcing to the world via Internet?

On an expressly (see our Terms of Use/Rules) family-oriented forum?

I know, most likely no serious offense intented, but come on, can we please try to elevate our behavior above that of street gangs, punks, and juveniles?

If we wouldn't act it out among young children, or before mom or grandma, then should we do so in public?

Is this really the type of message that our popular culture has come to glorify?





Geforce, I'm honestly interested, why do you so admire Dave's behavior? I can see the fun in gigging authority, the commander. We used to just make a funny face or put up two fingers behind the head of one standing next to or in front of us.

Shame on both of you. Now go stand in the corner until dinnertime. ; )

Worth thinking about at least? I sure hope so.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS: I hesitate to relay this, but it adds some humor to my preaching; according to wikipedia, that is not an accurate display of the "shocker" gesture.
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Arizona State University

Mascot: Sparky



Get over your bad selves - STUDY the ASU images - go ahead, take as long as needed.
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Sunny is an ASU grad - as is a number of her childhood friends... the shocker is nothing new

a/k/a The Pitchfork (or Trident)

Wikipedia "Pitchfork" including how-to

(Message edited by slaughter on December 05, 2010)
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glorifying satan is cool apparently.

Imagine the outrage from the anti-Christian hordes if a state school/university adopted an image of Jesus or an angel as their mascot.

Apparently the ACLU endorses Satan and the devil. Their hypocrisy is incredible; their agenda impossible to ignore.

I used to think this kind of stuff didn't matter. Heck, I was firmly caught up in it. I don't see it that way anymore, this mainly based on my own personal experience. The deep psychological influence of imagery upon young impressionable minds should not be dismissed.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, I studied. : ) Pitchfork gesture not same as shocker.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Difference is palm side forward and fingers separated where shocker is backhanded with fingers together.

The pretty girls are displaying neither it seems.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Irony?

The Duke Blue Devils, of Duke University, a school established by the Methodist Church. D'OH!
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, you really need to lighten up a little...



Last I heard, none of the theocrats at Duke were up in arms about "Devil With a Blue Dress On"...
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sort of proves how pathetic football is at the alma mater tho...
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Char, remember I'd told ya what it means...

"2 in the _______
1 in the ________...."



"I'd seen it plenty; figured it was just some kind of good-natured salute akin to a peace sign. I just looked it up via google."

Wow, Blake- even though you're a moderator here on BW, you sure don't get out from under your rock much, eh?
(I agree with Char there, have a laugh every now and then... )
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Wow, Blake- even though you're a moderator here on BW, you sure don't get out from under your rock much, eh?

More like stumbling from out of the fresh air and daylight into the sewer. You may enjoy it. I sure don't.
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Beugs
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, I'm right there with you, I think it's disgusting. It's even worse when I see a little kid doing it because he wants to be "cool" like daddy. I present the future leaders of our country, we're all doomed.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"More like stumbling from out of the fresh air and daylight into the sewer. You may enjoy it. I sure don't."

Awwww, 1 in the stink after all...




"we're all doomed."

Where's the Church Lady when you need her?

Gosh.
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Fahren
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey - Dave is a southpaw - it's all good ; )
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tbolt, good shot at a little humor- a scarce commodity on this forum as of late.

Blake, glad you learned something today...

"In order to teach, one must offend.
In order to learn, one must be offended."



Hey, Moderator, I just inserted a "beater"...

Here's another-



Gawshh, these might send us to our doom!!!!



Oh, that's just a monster, and I'm running with the devil...
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why does EVERYONE think I don't know what it means... I was not born yesterday... no worse than the PBR "mascot" that showed up at Homecoming... sheesh... if it is that bothersome... put it on the backfire board...
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As Dave mentioned.... this was the goof off picture. I've taken lots of squad, platoon and company photos. The ones you see displayed in hallways, on fireplace mantels and corridors in military facilities are always professional.

The ones like Dave posted are just a silly, "everything goes" photo.

In reality, the shocker isn't at all that terrible of a gesture in comparison to some of the other "goofy poses" I've witnessed in pictures. There is even one I have in an album with a blow up doll, wig and some lipstick.

I would never disrespect this country or my comrades in official capacity... but when the commander says... "Alright men, get your @#!$ face on for the next one!" We, like Dave... get silly.
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Need I mention you have earned every right to do so...
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cory,

I'm just curious as to why some folks, nice friendly folks, feel it is worthy entertainment. I can appreciate the humor in a good mooning; I don't see it in the shocker. Might partly be due to misinterpreting it all these years and being so surprised upon learning the true meaning. I was going to say "shocked", but well : ]

Char, I tend to agree with the "earned it" observation, but still wonder "why do it."

I think the increase in popularity of joking displays of the "shocker" and the like speaks to the health of our society, and it isn't a very positive prognosis.

We can do better. : )
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake I don't know if I can provide a good answer for the question you have. I can tell you that in my experience in the combat arms profession I have shared some of the most awful and most wonderful of experiences of my life. Some of the best stories I have ever told, or ever heard have been sitting around amongst peers. I'm not keen on gang signs, but to me, the shocker has always been a legend amongst the trashiest of stories circulating amongst the barracks. So when I see Dave and the shocker (Which, is kind of hard to really see it to begin with...) the first thought that comes to mind is... good for you Dave. Have fun.

I guess seeing Dave having a good time just caused me to give him the thumbs up knowing that life isn't also so shiny and satirical in the military. I'm often sighted flashing the "Rock On" to aircraft in CAS. In Hawaii most of the locals wave with the "Hang Loose Bro" wave.

Here's a guy who shares a little goofiness along with some good motorcycling tips for beginners. The following video will explain the differences in biker waves.

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Whisperstealth
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, it's crude sure. And this is a family site.

That being said. I'm not offended. If a young'in is on the site, takes the time to look up what the "shocker" is, odds are they have seen and heard much worse. I've heard and seen butt/sexual jokes on and alluded to on the quick board before.

I do not think society is a risk because a guy in the military decided to put this up on a mostly male dominated forum dedicated to motorcycles. Guys, bikes, guns, the "shocker", while may not "go" together are often found close by.

I however, have no plans on ever deploying the Shocker. Not part of my ars'enal. ; )
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Iman501
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i think i'm the youngest (or pretty darn close) and i'm not offended...

while up in homecoming i was pulling out of AV with my friend kyle on his yellow X1 and somebody was coming in, they flashed the shoccker to me, it made me laugh. I was seeing it all over badweb, and when i got up to HC and actually met some of you guys, it just made me laugh and feel more connected to the buell family, if it wasnt for badweb i'd be like WTF?...did that guy just throw up the shocker to me?!
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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wheres the pic of
erik throwing one 1125 roll out or the like?
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK Char- back at BTF dinner, take it as just a gentle reminder.

Glad to see just a little appreciation of dirty twisted minds here- I'd like to think I'm in good company...


"I however, have no plans on ever deploying the Shocker. Not part of my ars'enal. ; )"

Your deployments may vary...



Somehow, just looking at this emoticon, if one added a musical note, it might just be a queef.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DON'T TASE ME BRO!!!
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why do you think it's cool to foster a dirty and twisted mind?
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