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Tom_b
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The clowns are apparently going back to Mc alester, OK after the humiliation they suffered a couple of weeks ago for a full day of "protests' at the city hall, marine corps., eastern oklahoma state college and Mc Alester high school. December 10th about 1 pm staring at the city hall. If you live in the area.. Be there.. They are coming to Mulvane, ks. the home of the patriot guard on Nov. 30th.. I'll be there in protest against the pricks..
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think a great protest would be for the counter protesters to surround them.




And fire up and run at full steam, chainsaws.
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Geforce
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just make your own signs, surround them, out shout, and send them packing again.
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Details?

Do everything possible to drain them of their motivation, in $$$, time, and especially, in spirit.

Why are they coming back?
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Tom_b
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are pissed off about their tires being slashed the last time they were there..I;m bot gonna post their link. you can find it under godhatesfags... yes really that is their website.
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Ridesinnm
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there a listing posted anywhere that shows when they will be where? Would sure like to be there with my flag if they come around.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still think this was a pretty cool response to these morons:

http://laughingsquid.com/san-franciscos-answer-to- westboro-baptist-church/

A couple of examples:



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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, But in the logic it really just falls apart

God Created Man and saw that it was good
Some men are homosexuals
God Made Homosexuals
All that God created was good
Homosexuals are Good.

IF God really hated homosexuals.... would there not be them through out history since Roman times at least ?

Frankly I dont care what you do in your own bedroom, and it is none of my business.
Nor is it of the government, nor of this damn protesting 'church'

If God truly hates you, well then He will deal with it on judgement day.

Now, go away your logic really bothers me.
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Southern Marine
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I live here in McAlester, and I laughed my butt off when I heard what happened. What really makes it sweet, NO ONE in McAlester would sell them tires. I have to work, but if at all possible, I'm definitely gonna do my part. : ) These clowns need to be stopped. I will say this, this is not one of those towns they want to piss off. I was once told by someone from this area, we have plenty of places to hide bodies where they would never be found.
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Whatever
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hate is the opposite of God. They don't even belong in the same sentence. Where the heck is McAlester, I would like to go there some day.
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Southern Marine
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

McAlester, Oklahoma is on Hwy 69, about 1 1/2 hrs south of Tulsa, Oklahoma and about 3 hrs north of Dallas.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, But in the logic it really just falls apart

God Created Man and saw that it was good
Some men are homosexuals
God Made Homosexuals
All that God created was good
Homosexuals are Good.

IF God really hated homosexuals.... would there not be them through out history since Roman times at least ?

Frankly I dont care what you do in your own bedroom, and it is none of my business.
Nor is it of the government, nor of this damn protesting 'church'

If God truly hates you, well then He will deal with it on judgement day.

Now, go away your logic really bothers me.



Not to get too deep, but man was perfect until the fall.

That said, these folks have evidently not read John 3:16.

God loves "Fags". In fact, he was willing to allow his Son to die so that he might provide a way for them to be with him.



These misguided people couldn't care less about what God hates or doesn't hate.
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Midnightrider
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm all for a counter protest, but to anyone planning on attending I can only recommend please be careful. As misguided as these animals are (understatement of the year) they are not all stupid. I believe at least one of the head sicko's daughters is an attorney. My guess is they have two goals. One is publicity. Second is to hope some good citizen gets carried away and commits a crime such as an assault or another property damage action so they can have them arrested. Which would certainly get them more publicity. I rode with the Patriot Guard Riders or PGR here in the DC area and years ago they (Westboro) scheduled a demonstration across the street from the National Naval Medical Center (Bethesda). Initially we, the local PGR chapter wanted to schedule a counter-protest and our chatter on the PGR website was pretty rabid. We were "ordered" to stand down by the PGR national leadership or lose our charter. It made me crazy at the time but in retrospect it was probably a good decision. It takes a lot to keep your temper in check when these cretins show up at a fallen hero's funeral so again I hope y'all show up in force and do anything and everything to make their's an unsuccessful event.Just don't give them an excuse to make the LEOs there arrest you. Godspeed
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

God is love.




That is all.
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I grew in Westboro (it's a nice neighborhood and the church has sure screwed up the reputation) and they are certifiable nuts.

Fred, the old man, is an attorney as are most the family.


quote:

Father: Fred Wade Phelps (railroad security officer, d. 14-Oct-1977)
Mother: Catherine Idalette Johnston (housewife, d. 3-Sep-1935)
Mother: Olive Briggs (stepmother, m. 1944, d. 29-June-1985)
Sister: Martha Jean Capron (retired missionary, estranged from Phelps family)
Wife: Margie Marie Simms (m. 15-May-1952, thirteen children)
Son: Fred Phelps, Jr. (lawyer, employed by Kansas Department of Corrections)
Son: Mark Phelps (business executive, estranged from Phelps family)
Daughter: Katherine Phelps (lawyer, license to practice law suspended, estranged from Phelps family)
Daughter: Margie Phelps (lawyer, employed by Kansas Department of Corrections)
Daughter: Shirley Phelps-Roper (lawyer)
Son: Nathan Phelps ("Nate", gay rights and atheist activist, estranged from Phelps family)
Son: Jonathon B. Phelps (lawyer)
Daughter: Rebekah Phelps-Davis (lawyer)
Daughter: Elizabeth Phelps (lawyer, works at homeless shelter)
Son: Timothy Phelps (lawyer, employed by Shawnee County Department of Corrections)
Daughter: Dorotha Bird (lawyer, estranged from Phelps family)
Daughter: Rachel Phelps (lawyer)
Daughter: Abigail Phelps (lawyer)




They also have a team that video tapes the entire landscape at each demonstration and they pursue anyone they think is adverse.

I've learned, driving by their demonstrations, not even to raise a camera lest I hear from them the next day. They'll run the tapes, then the tag and find you. Weird beyond description.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Phelps-Roper

Anonymous for a reason
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From that Wiki article.

"She is currently on the list of individuals banned from entering the United Kingdom for fostering extremism or hatred"

Good job too.

Tar & feather the lot of 'em I say.

Yes it's a "Cruel & unusual punishment" but they're cruel & unusual people.

(Message edited by Mr_grumpy on November 26, 2010)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting to read confirmation that so many of them are attorneys. One thing I'd heard from a co-worker is that's how WBC funds themselves to do all these protests: they sue people who bother them at these protests and use the money from the suits to fund more protests.

(Message edited by Hughlysses on November 26, 2010)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If y our stock and trade is litigation, you don't just sit and wait for it to come to you.

Ask James Sokolove and Associates (can't stand ambulance chasers : |).


Find your niche and then market to drive sales. The Phelps clan have discovered that they can create their own revenue stream. Additionally, they can become their own plaintiffs. That means that their cut of the settlement is 100%. It costs relatively little to file a suit against someone.


The protests are irrelevant. They have no real cause. They simply calculated the absolute worst things you could say to someone and then figured out the absolute worst place and time you could say them to create the greatest impact.

Additionally, they mutilate the intent of the tax code and organize as a "church" in order to avoid paying taxes on the awards they win.

Now, if you want to make them go away, pass a law that prohibits protests within so many feet of a funeral with heavy fines levied against violation. Hit them in the wallet and they will not chance it.

It's all about the $$$ for this group.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, so I went to the God hates fags website. So They don't like Jews, gays, America, soldiers and so far as I can tell everything. What a misserable life. Maybe they have a different book than me. All I can say is wow. I knew they were f-ed up but, wow...
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Crackhead
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wounder if they trade marked their slogans?
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Balloyd66
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a pic of the nut jobs in action. Took it this morning waiting for a left turn. They can be found somewhere in town on almost any given day. This is one of their regular spots. They love to harass the church on my left; the clergy there has been outspoken against the nut jobs.

Fatty's ID'd the scam very accurately. They've made a lot of $ from our local governments. Won't be too long before they bring suit against some city/police for not protecting their vehicles when they're out-and-about.

And about what Anonymous was saying, check out the gal in tan pants on the very left. She has video and is filming the southbound cars stopped to my left. Someone honked and she was very interested in that.


nut jobs
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Thumper74
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think they can sue the police for much...

I'm trying to draw from my Criminal Law class, but the police aren't required to protect individuals or property. They're there to enforce the law. It's not against the law unless you get caught...
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After they leave 17th and Gage . . the move down toward Lowman Methodist near 15th and Gage.

I think they use these as "practice spots" as their "compound" is located between Huntoon and 12th just East of Gage.

Interesting fun . . the kids were in some convoluted scavenger hunt one night and one of the bonus items was one of the Phelps' signs . . they found Sam Phelps (the illegitimate son of Shirley Phelps-Roper) who sneaked them into the compound's storage area and secured the sign.

These folks take "nut case" to the next level.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder how hard would it be to run up and snatch that camera?? you know... like, maybe someone dressed up in muslim drab or wearing an Obama halloween mask jumps out of a van then snatches it.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Someday,they are going to piss enuf people off and will be taken by mob and never heard from again.
We can only hope.....
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Balloyd66
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Amen brother Zip!!!
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Bsdfool
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With a little poetic license - O' Westboro, methinks thou doth protest too much!

Could it be that someone at Westboro Church may be hiding something in the closet?
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Usually the haters of Homosexuals have....thoughts they will deny to their dying breath. Sometimes even after being arrested in a park, or airport bathroom.

Hate for hire lawyers, eh? Nice scam, if you have no soul.
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Midnightrider
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I said "at least one"....is a lawyer. So I was off by a dozen or so. A lot of you here probably already know this but since the earliest days of the PGR, the PGR would attend the same funerals and do their best to either physically screen the mourners from the protestors (bodies, vehicles and even large trucks have been used)and/or drown out the chants by singing or revving motorcycles. One important difference is that the PGR coordinates with the family beforehand and will only attend IF INVITED - ultimately giving the PGR better access, advantageous position, etc.
Obviously the PGR also has a huge advantage, as they should, in the way they are treated by local law enforcement.

One thing I did notice is how quickly the media came to ignore or downplay Westboro. Nice to know that at least in this case the have appeared to have a social conscience and it wasn't always about ratings.
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Buellerandy
Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So let me get this straight... These asshats came to protest a military funeral only to get their tires slashed and no one would service them. And they plan on making a difference by revisiting the same location?

Apparently they have zero imagination if they're coming back for seconds.
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