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Iamarchangel
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Each winter I store my 9R at the local dealer. The price isn't too bad but… it's still money out.

My wife really wants me to put a shed in, figures 3-4 years of storage pays for the shed.

I'd like a shed/workshop but I don't see a value in an unheated one. We're talking Canadian winter.

So, has anybody taken a basic 8 x 12 shed kit and done the conversions to insulate and heat? Any idea how much cost it would add? Space lost? Any ideas (besides sell and move to a house with a garage)?

(I have a small lot and just enough access to get the bike there. Heritage area, so I can't change the front.)
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Nillaice
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my wife insulated my 8x10 tin shed with some styrofaom sheets from lowes, some caulk (used as glue) and a few cans of great stuff.
a space heater keept up the degrees tru a few weeks of below freezing here in va.

dunno bout your canadian winters ...
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Aptbldr
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Consider building an insulated & heated "crate" to fit the bike. It could look like a large dog house : ) Or, one side could be shared with the home.
Minimum footprint/space.
Smaller volume well sealed & insulated will be dry & toasty for smaller cost.
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Aptbldr
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nillace, do you loan out the wife?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why would you bother to keep it above freezing?
Just keep it dry and keep the rodents out and it will be fine.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had my pole barn insulated. 24 X 30. Since a pole barn doesn't have vertical studs, we had to be a little creative. I used 2" foil covered blue polyisocyanurate boards cut to fit in between 2X2s that we placed here and there on the diagonal pole supports. Then I sheetrocked -fastened on those 2x2s- with a 1/2" airspace between the rock and the foam board. On paper that computes to about R19 value. I didn't lose any space, and I had previously run electric wiring and put in two 8 foot electric baseboards. My goal is the just keep the temp fairly constant and above freezing.

The blue polyisocyanurate is the most expensive of all the insulation boards, but it is the best.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or alternatively, go to your local commercial vehicle breakers & buy an old reefer body from a delivery truck.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lost my garage with the move.
Parking the bike in the living room. Its a corner conversation piece.
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Trbulnt
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lost my garage with the move.
Parking the bike in the living room. Its a corner conversation piece.

Funny! I have a garage and still told (who am I kidding..asked her permission) the wife the bike was going in the house this winter! She did deny the storage in the spare bedroom so the basement it will go.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for some of the ideas.

I'm not really talking about below freezing, I'm talking -20°C for weeks at a time with the occasional -40 potential.

I really want to do the reefer bed idea, I used to build them. Unfortunately, it would need a helicopter drop to get into the backyard.

In a previous house, we kept the racebike in the kitchen, a Husqvarna sideboard. Not a real option in this house.

Keep the ideas coming please.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2 part urethane spray foam and a heater as needed for repair work. I still wouldn't worry about the cold for anything except the battery which can go inside. Thicker walls means thicker insulation. The foam will fill up basically every crack where wind can blow through so you get insulation and sealing in one step. In the USA you can buy kits for this stuff, not sure about Canada.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm, If you used to build reefers, is there any way you could get hold of reject panels to build what you want?
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, but I have thought of the wreckers and cutting out the FRP to build.

Also thought about the inside liner material, no idea where to get that.

I've even thought about a reefer box, dismantling it in the front and rebuilding in the back. Leverage, wheels and muscle can do a lot but I'm still not sure I have the room with the trees.

The spray foam is available and I'm looking into it for my attic renovation. Hmm, new thread idea.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I remember correctly the spray foam loses R value over time as the inert gases used to expand it leach out of the cells (bubbles).
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It shouldn't since any gas that leaks out will be replaced by air.
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Preybird1
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been storing me X1 outside for years and have had no problem. I store it in a cycle shell. It works very well, Here is a link

http://www.cycleshell.com/

I just take the battery inside and put it on the battery tender for the winter. And i add a little stabil fuel stabilizer.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you pour a slab,put 2" foam board under the concrete with pex radiant heat lines in the slab,spaced at 8". Hook it up to a small water heater,pump,thermostat and control. Should be very easy to keep it at 45 degrees.
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

scott,
no and NO
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@GregE, yes but air is less of an insulator than inert gas.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Michael, I'd be glad to pop over & give you a hand with it. Just send the airline ticket to......
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Britchri10
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why don't I just send my lear for you......
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Boliver
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Props to all you Northern folks having to deal with all that frigid weather.I live down South(Oklahoma) and it is far too cold here for this skinny kid.
Remember even if you don't start your bike the entire Winter season you'll be doing yourself a big favor by rolling them tires around.You know keep the contact spot on your rubber in a different spot from time to time.Cold weather can and will effect them greatly.
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Trevd
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been leaving my bike in my un-heated garage for years here in Ottawa. It's been fine.

Once I store it, it's there until spring. I don't start it until I'm ready to take it for a good ride. And like Boliver mentions, I do roll it around slightly a couple of times a winter to help the tires out.

I think going through the trouble of heating a shed in our climate just to store a bike in would be overkill.
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