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Froggy
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am looking at picking up a Cycle Hill changer, but I need some advice for installation. Drilling anchor bolts into the ground is not an option for me, and I lack 4 wheel transportation so the trailer hitch setup is out too.

What i was thinking of doing was taking a sheet of plywood (probably about 1 square meter), install casters on the 4 corners, and mounting the changer to it. This way it would still be semi portable, and I could stuff in a corner or something when I am done.

Would this work? I don't know how big or how heavy the machine is, so it is hard for me to judge if this will even be a practical option.
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Strokizator
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got the NoMar and I don't see how you could make it work with casters. Using the mount/dismount bar requires a significant torque load that would have you chasing the thing all across the garage.

You may be able to cantilever it off a post. Dr.Greg has one too, I wonder what he does?
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F_skinner
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Frank, you can use a pallet (you know, the wood ones you can find behind a grocery store) to attach it too. I have done that in the past. It will still be shakey unless you can put some weight on the sides of it.

It is not that they are heavy but they are tall and most of the weight is near the top. Plus you are putting some force on them. I think mine weights about 40 pounds or so (not really sure}.

I am getting ready to mount mine with some anchor bolts to the garage floor because I got tiered of using it on a pallet.

Frank
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Nvr2old
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Cycle Hill is not very tall. You use your hip to rotate the bar around the post. Most force is rotational, except for breaking the bead, which might prove more difficult if the changer is raised off the floor.



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Just_ziptab
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bolt it onto a 4 foot 2x12 and stake it to the ground with something bigger than the run of the mill tent stakes.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bolt it onto a 4 foot 2x12 and stake it to the ground with something bigger than the run of the mill tent stakes.

3 ft pieces of rebar?
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy;
put the stand on the center of one edge of a 4x8 sheet of ply wood,( center of long side ) mount the stand on that side with the edges even, ( base to edge of ply wood ) put handles on the opposite corners, on opposite edge of sheet (same side as stand)

the stand will hold the sheet up to prop it against the wall, and handles on the opposite corners make it easy to handle
you just drag it out and flip it down

you stand on the ply wood to work ( point the base across the sheet ( up with the stand on the bottom ), and when done disassemble the machine and stand the sheet back up.

I used to rent a storage bin and that is how I did the no mar, I slid it out into the drive and put it together to change the tires, then broke it down and put it up


USE CARRAGE BOLTS for the mounting the stand with wing nuts and washers ( easy to tighten and remove if needed ) the bolts will pull into the ply wood ( 3/4" ) and not stick out much (carrage bolts have the round heads with the square shank under neath ..
for handles use cheap sturdy door / gate pull handles

Oh and dont do casters it will cause problems.





the hardware and stand are facing you
if you go no mar the triangle mount of the tire holder points up in the pic..
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Hammer71
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Save the money and get the mount/demount bar. Ive had just the bar for years now and have no desire for the complete setup. Oh yeah and its easy enough to keep out of the way by hanging it on the wall
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm with Hammer - all I have is the bar - some tires can take a little muscle but you don't need anything else. I can even break the bead with mine in some cases.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do you break the bead in other cases?
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

spoons.
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Stalker
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what ever you decide to do make sure you get a "yellow thing" or 2, and one of those spring loaded clamp thingeys.
If you have a sturdy work bench, a car rim with garden hose around the bead lip, and some threaded rod can be rigged to hold the rim in place.
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