| Author | Message | ||
     Rah7777777 |
Boogiman, I don't care if it was my brother, dad, uncle, etc... If you act like a piece of shit and run from the cops I feel you deserve an ass beating!!! They didn't kill the guy, just showed a little force to help straighten him out. Next time, he probably won't run! And what about next time he is being a douche for a few minutes? What if while running from the cops he side swipes a mini-van full of your loved ones causing them to wreck! Is he then allowed to waltz away with no problems then? I talked to a couple local cops, this guy has a larger rap sheet. I'm pretty confident the officers knew who it was from the get go. I can't believe they fired the cops! They didn't kill the guy. Just helped with a life lesson. I understand the vast majority of Americans are screaming foul at the cops.... I wish they'd open there eyes and realize if we keep slapping hands and just shaking a finger at the "bad" guys, this country is going to continue to sink. Our judicial system needs to HTFU bad! ( but please note, I mean only cases that have 100% proof of serious wrong doing!! ) This kill someone and get 10 years is BS! hang that piece of shit in a tree!! ( again with 100% proof ) Have the cops lay a fist here and there on dumb asses and I bet you'd see a change in simple day to day behavior in public. If your going to walk and talk like a "real" man, you need to take a real mans punishment. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
dished out by whom the thug with a badge and a gun? | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
and really any of you actually think that the violent response is going to 'teach' this guy or any others like him a lesson? cuz i am hear to tell you it hasn't with rare exception. | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Ok... I found where the one officer made the comment "Get up beside and I'll beat the s*&t outta him" @ about the 1:09 mark. The idiot may deserve a beating and the officer may think the idiot deserves a beating. Unfortunately in today's politically correct society the officer certainly can't say it while be recorded.... | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
what does a politically correct society have to do with a premeditated crime? | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Try to have a conversation/debate and we can't even agree to disagree. (Message edited by Paint shaker on September 21, 2010) | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
wow just wow man. so many assumptions and so much bigotry in that statement i just can't continue this goodnight on this topic | ||
| Xb984r |
Rah, let me get this right, because he ran that gave the cops the right to do with him what they want? Does this mean when a citizen has a problem with an officer, they should have the right to beat him down then also? Heck by your logic we don't need police, lets just have a big free for all. | ||
| Paint_shaker |
"wow just wow man. so many assumptions and so much bigotry in that statement i just can't continue this goodnight on this topic" When all else fails, launch counter-accusations and innuendo (big word for me)... | ||
| Tpoppa |
Premeditated assault by the cops. I'm glad they got fired. The guy on the bike may an ass. But an ass still has rights. See Constitution. It is well beyond the authority of a cop do determine a punishmnet...although some cops like to forget that. | ||
| Budgolf |
I didn't mean to imply by my comparison that police are bad and military members are good, just that the true difference amazes me. For example, many police will tell you that a person they have stopped is a threat, and is treated as such, until some interaction shows the policeman otherwise. Correct? For members of the military, we can't treat someone as a threat until we are actually threatened. A guy can walk down the street with an AK, have it in his car or what ever, and until he points it at me, he is not a threat. Try talking to a policeman with a bb gun in your hand. Or take CS (tear gas) for example. Illegal under the laws of land warfare. Yet it is used on US citizens all the time. Police aren't better or worse than us, but sometimes I do think that they take things a bit far. But then again, so do we in the Army. Thank God their isn't a camera on me everywhere I go. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
well exactly how was that supposed to be taken? seems clear to me. educate me. | ||
| Damnut |
There's morons all over, the ones in cuffs and the ones applying them. I know many officers, some good very good, some power hungry dicks. Every time I have been pulled over, I am always very polite and compliant. I know being a cop isn't the easiest job in the world and ths last thing I want to do is add stress to the officer's day. This has gotten me out of many tickets and most incidents have been good. But I will say that there have been times where I have been pulled out of my car and treated pretty shity for no good reason. | ||
| Blake |
If a high school principle can legally beat minors for tossing a french fry across the cafeteria table, then I have ZERO problem with the criminal receiving a beating. This wasn't just someone that the police "had a problem with", this was someone evading arrest, a criminal who was endangering the public. They should have been smart enough to beat on him off camera. | ||
| Blake |
Tear gas is illegal in war? Huh? Says who? | ||
| Doughnut |
Edit: I was ranting. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. (Message edited by doughnut on September 21, 2010) | ||
| Xdigitalx |
I have been on the receiving end of a baton as well and I can't believe people actually think that this video is brutality and the police gave him a beating. 4 hits with a baton to the legs and 2 punches in the kidney are not a beating. I mean... you can't even tell if the baton hits actually hit or missed .. Maybe he connected 2x and missed 2x. Oh but seriously..,.. What are the injuries?? How many broken bones? What hospital did they take him to? I would understand the outrage if this was a senior citizen or a defenseless woman or kid. The 2 punches were clearly due to resisting. Get him to comply and get him cuffed asap. or he may run again or worse. | ||
| Rah7777777 |
By law, I understand what they did was excessive. I see and get that. But on the other side, I think he deserved a little beating. Maybe not as much as he received, but they gave him plenty of time to stop. He chose to barrel through stop signs instead. ( creating a danger to others ) I'd probably be more on the "abuse" crowds side if I knew a judge wasn't just gonna slap his hand and give him a fine and probation. What if they'd just hit him with a tazer? Would that have been okay? Actually I think the tazer would have been a much better choice. And a safer one from the officers point. Unfortunately there are bad apples on both sides. I think a light beating / tazer is justifiable. Just gotta know where that line is. If there would have been any more swings, my vote might change. I think what it boils down to is this.... Dallas needs to invest in tazers :-) I'm not here to argue. We all have our opinions as right or as wrong as they are. Just don't run from the cops boys and girls. That's what we should take from it. Because you never know if your gonna get beat up or tazed when your bike breaks down :-) | ||
| Doughnut |
Ever been tazered? I'll take a few baton hits   | ||
| Rah7777777 |
That's why I'm saying a tazer would have been better!! Plus the tazer isn't a defense weapon, it is simply a compliance aid for the officer. ( that's what officers have told me anyhow ) So the officer would have still got the guy down and cuffed and at the same time gave him a little F you zap. Oh and kept his job. Much better scenario in my book. Plus the guy will remember that tazer much better then that stick! | ||
| Doughnut |
Again i will say it. too much tv. It may be different else where but tazers are not that common for us. You see them all the time on tv and COPS but between the training to use and the actual device they are not common here. I have been on for a while and have never seen one used and still get excited at the chance to see. | ||
| Gunut75 |
Ever been tazered? I'll take a few baton hits I agree with ya there. Electricity hurts!..............bad. | ||
| Rah7777777 |
The city I work for has 1 for every officer ( about 320 officers ). They all carry them on there belt opposite of there gun. Looks like a second gun in it's holster. besides looking like something tyco would make with the bright yellow handle, haha. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I've been tazed, pepper sprayed, pepper balled, beaten with clubs and fists. Some of this while handcuffed. One time right in front of my mother, while handcuffed, IN THE VISITING BOOTH. I know from whence I speak. I have to wonder WHAT VIDEO were some of you people watching? The cop car struck the motorcycle, the guy staggers off to the left, then an officer enters the frame from the right with his club out, then brings it rapidly down multiple times. You can't tell me he didn't connect with at least half those shots. Running is not resisting arrest. Once they lay hands on him, if he tries to bolt, then it's resisting. The video I watched showed a guy getting off the bike and immediately putting himself on the ground where he received a beating. It's obvious to me that some of you just see what you want to see, not what is actually happening. Doughnut, I'll take you up on that drink some time. Or if you're ever down in Georgia give a holler. | ||
| Doughnut |
Pwnzor, I seem to like you more and more Running is not resisting arrest by law it is. | ||
| Blake |
Matt is now recalling old bruises and thinking, "DANG! Wish I'd known that!"  | ||
| Rah7777777 |
Haha!! | ||
| Doughnut |
Off the top of my head I can think of 4 Officers who are trained to use a tazer on my shift (4 shifts and 7 districts). One of which is a Sgt. so not likly to be there when needed now. Dept is close to 2000. | ||
| Doughnut |
And we would not have enough to equip all on the same day. | ||
| Whatever |
I think if you have ever been in a situation where one of these uniformed officers has actually saved your life and know damn well and sure that you would be six feet under if they had not been there for you, it just might change your perspective a little bit... just sayin... that is my experience... it is really easy to sit in judgement when it is a video on the internet... me, myself, at least two distinct times owe my life to a Dane Co Deputy and a Waukesha Co Deputy... I do not know their names and probably would not even recognize them if I ran into them on the street... but they are a few people I hold in the highest regard... it is a thankless job... they are there when no one else is and they put their life on the line every day, sometimes on a 24 hour shift, not knowing if they are going to go home to see their loved ones... ok, that said... I am ALWAS polite and compliant when I get pulled over... but why do all you losers get out of your speeding tickets and I just get written up? I am sure I have beauty on my side... and I NEVER beg or lie or try to manipulate...  |
