| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
I was gonna make a long post about it, but I don't got the time. Anyway, I rode the new Multistrada 1200S last weekend, all I can say is that it is easily the best and most perfect bike ever built. All I love of the Ulysses without that air cooled lump, and all of the greatness of the 1125R that I love but with even more goodies. Well worth the $25k+ it would cost me to get one with every option. | ||
| F22raptor |
To bad it will be worth 9k in a year...and 6k in 3 years,But it is cool though.I have currently and have owned many Ducs!!  | ||
| Sayitaintso |
I test rode one last Saturday. I was grinning as much as I did the first time I rode my Uly. I had the same thought as you... a Uly with a 1125 motor. I am trying to work out a way to get one without having to sell the Uly. When it hit 5k rpms that thing jumped like no other bike I've ever been on. In third I was almost at triple digits and still not hitting the rpm redline. It was light, flickable, and just down right fun. Dr. Greg got one and from what he's posted over at the ducati.ms forum it sounds like he feels its the best bike he's ever ridden. He even said it caused the first speeding ticket he's had in over ten years (an after my test ride I can see why). I'm gonna get one, its just a matter of how I work it out and deciding if I should wait for the 2011 model. I cant say enough good things about it. Everyone should do themselves a favor and give one a test ride. I'd love to hear more of you guys thoughts after you take one for a spin. $20k is a lot for a bike to me, but after test ride it seems worth every penny.... and more. | ||
| Teeps |
Buell Ulysses = greater fun to work ratio than any bike I've ever owned. Much as I like the Multi, or the rumored Dorso; I just can't go backwards on the maintenance part of the experience. The Guzzi Griso is starting to call out... | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Valve adjustments are supposed to be good for 15k miles on the new Multi. Having a chain though is a bit of a bummer though....I hate chain maintenance. Other than that nothing looked that bad. My big worry is the electronic everything. keyless ignition, independent front and rear on the fly electronic adjustable suspension... and the list goes on. Ducati (and most italian bikes for that matter) doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to electronics. | ||
| Froggy |
Actually the 2010 Multi has less maintenance than my 06 Uly. Yea you add the valve check, but you lose clutch adjustment, primary chain adjustment, TPS reset, less frequent fork oil changes, less frequent oil, air filter, spark plugs and so on. 600 mile and 7500 mile services are just oil changes and inspections, so you are spending 50% more time on the road before a major service than with the Uly.  The electronics of the Multi were my favorite part. Keyfob is something I have wanted for years, I love how I walked up to it, sat on it, the bike came to life! I proceeded to play with the settings and reprogram the suspension while in the parking lot waiting for the demo to start. The bike had plenty of power, it felt similar to my 1125R, but not as strong in the low end. I suspect a tune can take care of that, as it felt a little rough. My suspicion was that it was the stock ECM, the demo had a Temigoni pipe on it and sounded fantastic. The bike has 16 suspension/engine programming modes available. It is fantastic, press a button to adjust for going 2-up. Press another button to change from nice soft touring suspension to a stiff sport suspension. Press a button to switch from a peaky 150hp, or to a more Uly-slow program with 100hp. I never got a chance to test the ABS though  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Badwebber Dr_greg bought one a month or so ago to supplement his 06 Uly. Check out his short report in the Big, Bad, & Dirty forum. | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Don't get me wrong its not that I dont like the electronics, the electronics gave me a huge woody, its just that I'm not sure I trust Ducati to have them ironed out for daily driving. The traction control and automatic suspension is the cats meow, I'd just hate to have something go wonky on a bike I ride everyday to work and get stuck in the cage while it gets figured out. I know the traction control is old technology for cars and race bikes but not so for "ordinary" bikes to the public. I just keep questioning whether I trust Ducati to have everything nailed down right outta the gate. Edit: Froggy, did the one you ride also have the race ecm in addition to the pipe? (Message edited by SayItAintSo on August 20, 2010) (Message edited by SayItAintSo on August 20, 2010) | ||
| Froggy |
Perhaps its my experience with computers and electronics, but I would gladly hop on the bike and do 10k miles this weekend and not think twice. If it was race ECM equipped, they need to fire the programmer. It wasn't terribly mapped, but it did feel lean down low, so my assumption is that it was an EPA compliant program. It was fully loaded, tons of carbon fiber all around, just no bags or GPS. | ||
| Danger_dave |
It's also got protruding nostrils. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Got three plus years, two months to pay on the Uly, after that I'll look at a use Multi. Thinking an '11 model could be had at a good price by then. Almost by rule, I don't buy the "first" year of anything. Let them go through any growing pains first. My '09 Uly has been fantastic. | ||
| Chadhargis |
A friend of mine just bought a loaded Multistrada. I'm hoping to get to take a ride on it sometime soon. Either that, or leave me along with it so I can strip down naked and rub against it. I love Ducatis. | ||
| Sayitaintso |
From everything I've been reading the stock ECM maps are very lean in the 2-4k range. There are tons of guys out there complaining about surging. But everyone who has made the full Temigoni upgrade (which I understands including replacing the stock ECM with a race one) is saying that the lean surging is gone. My buddy that went with me to Daytona for test rides traded his Honda ST on the spot for a S Touring version. They really are that good. The '10 Multi kinda makes me made about the whole "death of Buell" thing all over again b/c it seems exactly like what an 1125 Uly would have been if it ever came to market. Dave, yea the "nostrils" look a little strange to me too....but not as bad as the dual sport type bikes that dont have a beak at all like the big KTMs or the new Yammi Super Ten. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Beautiful bike with all the power and goodies I could ever want. Probably won't own one. Dorsodoro or Shiver or Speed Triple or Tiger or 990SM or Super Duke. REALLY want a Trumpet. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I wish I could test ride one! | ||
| Xb1200rick |
Rode the 1125CR over to the Ducati dealership a few weeks ago to test ride the new multi. IMO the engines felt very similar in power delivery. The Multi is very comfortable and fast. The bike is nice does everything well, BUT it does cost a lot. And if you don't get the first 3 service done at a approved dealer Ducati will void your warranty, check their website don't take my word. So plan on adding another $1500 to the cost of ownership. I liked the bike a lot and wanted one bad, but for the price I can have 2 bikes that do what they are designed to do very well, instead of one bike that does most everything good. Rick | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
if you don't get the first 3 service done at a approved dealer Ducati will void your warranty, check their website don't take my word. Not legal under the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act. | ||
| Xb1200rick |
Not legal under the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act. Exactly what I told them too http://www.ducatiusa.com/services/warranty/index.d o | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Unless they furnish the services free of charge with purchase, they can not compel that the service intervals be required at their dealerships. The real question is whether or not the challenge of the written warranty is worth the legal fees. | ||
| Ironhead1977 |
Xb1200rick, Glad you brought this to light.I was considering a Duc from these recent write ups until now.Triumph may be the eventual winner for me. | ||
| Court |
The language:
is perfectly legal and 100% from the language "voids your warranty". If you take your bike somewhere, to a non-Ducati dealer, for service your warranty is NOT voided. However if that dealer finds a cracked clutch cover they can neither get the cover from Ducati or get reimbursed for installation. You buy the cover and pay the installation. In other words, the warranty is not honored to non-Ducati dealers but it's certainly not void. The Magnuson-Moss Act is quite often misconstrued. In fact, if you look you will find this language in the Public Law:
I'm still waiting, after about 4 decades of motorcycling, to actually hear of a motorcyclist using this law to their benefit or anyone asserting a claim. It's primary purpose was cars and the silliness requiring the use of certain OEM parts to maintain a warranty. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Would an owner not be considered an "unofficial Ducati network" mechanic? | ||
| Panhead_dan |
There is no Duc dealership anywhere near here so I can't even look at one. Too bad John Deere doesn't sell motorcycles... | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
Looks to me like Uly owners are already planning their replacement bike... glad I have a Lightning, I don't want an ugly Duc! | ||
| Panhead_dan |
The only bike I would swap my Uly for would be one with LESS electronics, not more. In fact, I'm still thinking of ways to run a carb and do away with the e-crap on my Uly. I need a downdraft 40mm cv carb badly. The rest would be easy. | ||
| Dbird29 |
Hmm 1200GS vs. 1200S Both look pretty good. | ||
| F22raptor |
Panhead_dan,While your at it switch it over to points and a 6vt system..........  | ||
| Panhead_dan |
"Panhead_dan,While your at it switch it over to points and a 6vt system" Someone always says that. I was thinking of maybe a Dyna ignition, thank you. Think about it- the carb would be enclosed in the airbox. Think about all the wires, ecm, mysterious electrical gizmos and stuff I could remove from the bike. Less weight, simpler and more reliable. Whats not to like? | ||
| Dynasport |
The new Multi certainly sounds nice. I have not had the chance to ride one myself. I have read several reviews of them and the fueling seems to be an issue in some of the reviews. It is faster than my XT, but it also costs twice as much. Plus, while the maintenance schedule may be longer on some things, Duc parts and labor are EXPENSIVE. My son has a Monster and it is a nice bike, but not for the faint of heart to pay the service costs on. Actually, the initial service on it wasn't that expensive, but some simple replacement items were stupid expensive. Plus the local dealer seemed to have to order everything we tried to buy that wasn't a standard service part. As much as the Multi appeals to me, I just don't think I would actually buy one. Maybe a lightly used three year old one for half the new price, but not one for $20-25.000. As for everybody looking at dumping their Buells and buying a different bike, I understand the concern about parts availability, but I like my XT too much to sell it now. In fact, I doubt I will ever sell it. When I have racked up many miles and parts are hard for me to find, I will park it in my garage, get another bike, and let the Uly rest. I will take her out for a ride now and then, but she will be treated with car. After all, she is one of the last bikes produced by the BMC. (Message edited by DynaSport on August 21, 2010) | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>I would swap my Uly for would be one with LESS electronics,<< Pollution regulations mean it will eventually become impossible in a new bike. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Dr_Greg has posted an updated ride report on his new Multi: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/588884.html?1282515664 | ||
| Panhead_dan |
Doc lost me at "less low end torque" and "low rpm surging". Still looking forward to further reports, however. | ||
| Baybueller |
Doc pretty much nailed it. The surge is between 3 and 4k and mellows after warm up. The handling comes naturally. I went from an XB9 low to the Duc and after getting used to swinging a taller bike thru S turns, strips left quickly. The adjust on the fly suspenders are great for varied roads. love the bike and I hope all the gizmos hold up. |
