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Oldog
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

grabbing a quick read this am before digging into more lines of code,

it seems the Russians are going to provide
Iran fuel for their reactor, some how this cant be good.

Iran with nuclear weapons is not comforting thought, God Help Us........
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No worries... The One is about to have talks with Iran.

God Help Us...
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The One is about to have talks with Iran.

Oh $hit that cant be good either ...
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Opening scene, stage, curtains closed.
(announcer) Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States,

Curtains draw open...visible is a map on a tripod, and a squad of Marines surrounding a grey enlongated metallic device, and a microphone stand.

President enters, stage left, steps up to the microphone and makes his opening statement.

(opening statement)(using a laser pointer he first illuminates the map on the tripod (map of Iran) he highlights Tehran and five other large cities which are numbered 1 thru 6.(speaks) "I bring your attention to these cities in Iran, we will get back to those in a minute"

(turns and illuminates the grey cylindrical object) (speaks) "this is a General Dynamics Mk84 thermonuclear device". "I would like to make it clear that if any of the nuclear material from the new "power station" (theatrical wink at camera) finds it's way into a nuclear device that is used to attack any area anywhere on this planet we will send one of these beauties to city number one...any continued provocation will earn one sent to city number 2 and so on. (Looks directly at camera for close-up and smiles broadly) "and there will be nothing you can do to prevent it"...thank you and have a good day...

(pres walks off stage waving, curtains close)
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Nukeblue
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the one.....lol
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't Russia and China always take Iran's side? Weird alliance... former commie country and atheist commies in bed with fundamentalist whackjob country. Mr maybe they'll take anyone they can get because we stomp other countries when they start crap....
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Want to know the really spooky stuff ?
where do you think all the out of work soviet nuke engineers went after the wall fell ? Its been 20 years folks, their press release for we have the bomb will be its detonation.

And there will be nothing that Obama can do to stop it. They see him as weak, it is a perfect time to hit as we are tied in two wars and socially ambivelant at home about the war on terror and our opposition to radical muslim terrorist jihadi f*cks

Ramadan ends sept 10; expect another event.
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shame we don't have a man like Reagan in office...he was the first Pres in years that didn't take crap from anybody...(See Ghadafi and the meeting of the Aardvarks)...

Wait...we DO have the USS Ronald Reagan! And it is stuffed full of Whoopass.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What he said.....and don't forget our continued financial support to boost China into becoming the World's lead position.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is this where as Biden suggested that BO will be test and it will not be apparent that BO's response is right?
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe we could build a statue of irans president right next to the mosque at ground zero as a way to extend an olive branch to them. That would show them how open minded and accepting we are.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am so flipping tired of 'building bridges' political correct, and cow towing. They are what they are, and given the chance on an off tuesday with will cut you head off, and put it on YouTube for entertainment.
We need to quit treating them like kittens
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russia, China, Iran.

China needs oil. Russia needs money. Iran wants the bomb and other arms. Iran has oil, and so does Russia. Russia has the arms and engineers. I wash your back...
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps it is time for a round of Isolationism. Take a four year break from supporting and kissing the ass of the World. Do a little house cleaning and refitting. Re-fit the foundation.....as it were.
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Doug_s
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shame we don't have a man like Reagan in office...he was the first Pres in years that didn't take crap from anybody...(See Ghadafi and the meeting of the Aardvarks)...
ya, america always takes the moral high ground when practicing its foreign policy. even when ronnie was prez...




more:
gwb & the saudi king




nixon the shah & their wives




ghwb & manuel noriega




doug s.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I smell a truther.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bush/Saud pic is obvious photoshop job. Despicable.

You might as well put one up of Obama bowing to a bunch of other nations' leaders. Oh wait, that really did happen.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



FTW!

Jake
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Fast1075
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My post has nothing to do with "moral high ground"...thanks for pointing out some things...kissing a$$ to try to appease some antagonistic moron is the role of the "politically correct" and a sign of idiocy..."oh please Mr. Despot can't we just be friends".."will it be all better if we throw a few billion your way". When we turn around and walk away...they look at each other and say "those morons are so weak they dont deserve to live...lets go crash some more planes into some more buildings and kill a few thou more.

Europe kissed hitler's a$$ and where did it get them....all that did was give him more time to arm before he pulled the trigger....study some history...it always goes that way.

The nut job jihadists dont want to be your friend...they dont want you to convert...they want to KILL you...and me...and you children...and anybody else that was not BORN in their ways.

Play THEIR game...by their rules...kill them....they dont understand or care about anything else.

My reference to Reagan was about when Ghadaffi was waving his little sword and threatening our presence in the gulf...after that mouth breathing moron had the ball to send a few migs out to threaten the battle group (which were quickly dispatched by a single cap flight of F-14's by the way) Reagan sent a group of F-111 Aardvarks with iron bombs and leveled Ghadaffi's palace to show him that not only COULD we do it, but do it with OBSOLETE equipment....Mr. G has not since opened his pie hole and spouted any more $hit.

The argument can be made that Iran dont need the reactor to produce materials for bombs, all they need to do is buy some from the disgruntled former "soviet republics"...that is most likely true.

The point is, if SOMEBODY does not stand up..inside of two generations, all non nutcase mouth breathing knuckle draggers will be exterminated.....as surely as Hitler and his minions tried to kill all the jews....

Nicey nice aint gonna cut it....play their game....an eye for an eye....We are still not even.....we are down by 6 in the top of the 9th....are we going to sit on our hands and let our descendants be the victims?

(not edited for spelling punctuation or grammar)
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i just saw a news clip showing the potus saying that muslims have the right to build their mosque where ever they want to. now who is cowering down to who here. he's not the president of the united states, he thinks he's the president of the world. i already early voted for the primary and can't wait for the general election.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe that the regime in Iran is responcible for a great deal of trouble in the region,
I believe that they may aid the taliban,
They have so much as said that they will destroy Isreal(sp)
They(Iran) are a fundimentalist state. the motive there is domminance and oppression
Much like hitler and ww2 germany hate mongering for Jews and the US is done to justify their actions,

Obama is a shining example of how missguided the elliteists realy are,
building a mosque any where around ground zero is an affront to me!
As mayor bloomberg said there were several hundred in new york why there? He sees it as a security problem.

So why there near ground zero, rememberence of the martyrs?

It was islamic fundimentalists that flew the planes into the towers

I'm not likely to forget ever, I believe in freedom of religion, up to the point that you become a threat to your fellow citizens.

The biggest threat we face is STUPIDITY of our elected officials I see history repeating its self, as I understand it the crash of 29 did not bring about the depression but Democrats raising taxes on a weakened economy pushed it over the edge. in the early thirties.
Me I'm Hoping for Change on the hill, especialy the witehouse.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Iran, I wont be shocked if cityslicker is not right on his assertions about former russian bomb makers, and possibly sept 10 being a date to remember,

I hope that some of those MK84 General Dynamics nuclear devices are still servicable we may need em.....

(Message edited by oldog on August 14, 2010)
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We were having a party last night, and a couple showed up saying that they just heard on the radio that BO actually said the mosque "MUST" be built. I haven't verified this yet, but if true is proof positive that he really is tone deaf to the people that he "represents".
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe this is the position Biden was talking about early on that wouldn't be popular but was the right thing to do. Almost as if the idea has been in the works for some time now.

Its interesting to read comments on this mosque subject over on democratic underground. The group that sneers at Christians but welcomes a symbol of extreme intolerance and backwards thinking to alot of Americans. Its important to know who is friend or foe right now.
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Doug_s
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bush/Saud pic is obvious photoshop job. Despicable.

ya sure those were photoshopped. NOT!!! i guess these were photoshopped, too.







did you ever wonder why, in the days after 9/11, when every single flight in the usa was canceled, the bush administration chartered special planes to fly all their saudi buddies - including relatives of osama bin laden - out of america?

keep your heads buried in the sand - that's what's despicable, imo.


"...i just saw a news clip showing the potus saying that muslims have the right to build their mosque where ever they want to..."
well, according to the constitution of the usa, he's correct. unfortunately, jews, christians, hindus, buddhists, and any other religious organizations can also build their houses of worship wherever they like, too, but that's the constitution for ya...

doug s.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He is misguided, he is asserting that folks are guarnteed freedom of religion,
and building the mosque is a symbol of that freedom

freedom is guarnteed and we should protect it right up to the point that it presents a hazard or offence to the MAJORITY of the citizens of the community or country.

It is not the perview of an elected few who see them selves as our keepers to decide this.

I believe that in this case Mayor Bloomberg is correct, it presents a significant risk, the failed bombing of the WTC, (the garage) was orkestrated thru a mosque near by.

I believe that all moslems are not supporters of the fundimentalists
how can you be sure whats going on?,

I'm with the mayor and likely most of the local citizens, its inappropriate.
for a varitey of reasons.

funny BO is worried about offending the moslems hello Grandad rounded up many of the citizens of Japaneese heritage in ww2, and put them in camps, we havent done that, to the arab / moslem population,

better be paying attention to the Iranians
they could use that mosque for their purposes,
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

tit for tat, they can have their mosque in down town NY, we should level the one in down town Jerusalem.

zero sum gain.
thats the kind of bridges I am in favor of 'building'

hearts and mind of the enemy?... one to the head, two to the chest.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doug, If I am not mistaken those are Arabic greetings among friends, it has no cultural sequitor here, it is a show of, friendship, family, and unity.

The Saudis were contestants in the gulf war on our side, ( yeah I know the enemy of my enemy) and untill a few years ago we maintained a presence on saudi soil, being on speaking terms with them may not be all bad, just like being on good terms with Barhain and a few other moderate arab states in the reigon.

bush or obama, I'll take bush hands down
obama is a pandering, hypocritical, lying sack of $hit, who has little respect in this world.
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Doug_s
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oldog, the only point i was making, is that america sucks up to whoever it wants to, regardless of whether or not they are good or evil. regardless of whether or not dems or republicans are in control.

regarding your statement-
bush or obama, I'll take bush hands down
obama is a pandering, hypocritical, lying sack of $hit, who has little respect in this world.
- well, my opinion is 180 degress different than yours. while barack ain't my fave, he's a breath of fresh air compared to gwb. as far as respect in this world goes, tho, in this case i think you are factually mistaken - barack has far more world respect than gwb ever had.

ain't democracy grand?

doug s.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Building a mosque at ground zero is simply a symbol of Islamic conquest. It was done in Jerusalem, it was done in Cordoba, Spain, and now it's being done in NY city. The people behind this are not the "Moderate" Muslims that the press likes to talk about. They are the fundamentalists that will do everything in their power to push Islamic conquest.
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Doug_s
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

freedom is guarnteed and we should protect it right up to the point that it presents a hazard or offence to the MAJORITY of the citizens of the community or country.

It is not the perview of an elected few who see them selves as our keepers to decide this.

you are correct about the second statement - the constitution grants the courts final purview.

but, you are incorrect in your first statement. the whole purpose of the constitution's ideas of freedom and liberty are in fact aimed at protecting the MINORITIES against tyranny of the majority. and, a mosque, in and of itself does not present a hazard, regardless of how much some people may think it does.

doug s.
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