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Dcc46
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lists of American made products.

http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

caught an interesting piece on Mag Instrument and maglight flashlights,

You want to get a mag light, the story in its own way is much like buell the exception is the owners intense made in america ethic, there are like one or 2 components that are out sourced because they cant get them here, bulbs and orings
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I own MANY Pelican products - flashlights and equipment cases. Cool people, lifetime warranty on the flashlights - EVEN IF FLOODED when Scuba diving!

Making a decent effort to buy domestic is tough.

Have bought my last pair of Levis and was starting to do some shopping - so this thread is good timing.
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will buy a Briggs & Shit when they can start with 1 pull after being stored all winter.
Hell, if they start with 1 pull when the motor is still hot, cold or anytime during the mowing season.

1973 Honda SXM push mower
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will buy a Briggs & Shit when they can start with 1 pull after being stored all winter.

Well maybe you need to take better care of your mower. My Brigs an Strat starts first time everytime. Warm, cold or outta the shed after winter...
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Dano_12s
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Motorcyclist mag.has a good article on Highland motorcycles based in Oklahoma.1050cc-60 deg.Vtwin-128 BHP-110 lb.ft.-Ohlins fr+rr.Owners are making'made in USA'a priority.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Briggs operates as Spidy's does. Well, until I abused the hell out of it and stuffed it in the woods and something went "snap".
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Koz5150
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Briggs works great, and have been using their engines on minibikes for years.
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Honda also doesn't have the stupid bubble carb primer. and after i ran a can of seafoam through it, it idles and maintains rpms like it is fuel injected.

I have only bought mowers from yardsales and i have never be able to bring a B&S back to running like new. The 30 year old Honda runs better then my neighbors brand new B&S.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine was made in the mid 1960's and it still runs fine.

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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My neighbors brand new Honda idles like there's a 16 year old kid thinking it's a Camaro at a red light on the gas pedal.
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Mnrider
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All my Briggs engines run great.
I'm working on a POS acura in my shop right now.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ive got a simplicity vacuum cleaner that may be the only US made unit left. Its built and designed like no other. Awesome machine.
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it looks like i am just going to keep buying 20+ year old mowers then.

(Message edited by crackhead on July 08, 2010)
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Court
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Use a proper degree of skepticism as you view some of the "Made in America" claims.

I enjoy looking at my Cushman sitting here . . . virtually every single part handcrafted in Omaha, Nebraska.

Times have changed and even though the current state of affairs has swung the pendulum past center . . that's a temporary condition.

Some of you may have seen the recent commercials that Jeep has been running . . they're really nice. The piece that Erik Buell wrote about American Manufacturing for Forbes magazine summed up what the future COULD hold for American manufacturing.

It'll be interesting to see in which direction we go. I don't see any sea change in the next 36 months but the economic seeds of change are being planted. . . . it'll take a new way of thinking to sow them.

It's up to us.

Until then . . . American manufacturers are forced, for reasons ranging from economic to logistical, to seek out the best parts they can find in the world.

Court
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all the bows I sell are Made in the US!
Yep, every single part of them. WI,AZ,UT and NY/MI
Now the acc. that's a different story, some are some aren't.
One of my lines of arrows is made in Korea, another Mexico. The other 2 are US made.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS
My mower, with a B+S runs like a top!
Couldn't see myself buying one with a Honda engine.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it looks like i am just going to keep buying 20+ year old mowers then.

Why my B&S is a little over a year old, from Sears. It is just a push style. No stupid self propelled BS. : )
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B00stzx3
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice find!! Gonna get me some Murrican union-made jeans : ) I pay same price for imported commie junk anyways. Didn't even know they made clothes here except my Carrhart jacket.. Thanks!
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just paid a mere $60 for a killer old Troy-Built mower. Runs like a top. I'm actually jazzed to go mow lawn.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll never even aspire to owning a mower like our friend Drake (Dtx). The young man is going places. : )

I still think the matching leathers and helmet are going a bit far, but hey.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the things that made a strong impression on me during our recent trip was the amount of people who expressed a desire, in some way, to buy made in the USA products where possible. I also noted the amount of support and encouragement for US manufacturers, designers and entrepreneurs, and the desire to "be the best", which is quite different to here. While Australia is at the leading edge of a few fields, I think "tall poppy syndrome" is almost built in to the Australian psyche.

Overall it impressed me how patriotic Americans are, and how much pride and faith Americans have in being able to produce top quality products when they choose to.
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here is another great site with lots of great info on American products.

http://www.howtobuyamerican.com
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so what exactly is meant by made in America anymore? for instance at a glance yesterday i noticed for the first time that our wheels are made in china. never bothered to look to be honest but this thread makes me curious
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Dcc46
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 05:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ordered some t shirts and underwear from wickers, supposed to be comparable to ex officio's give and go clothing line and under armor.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 05:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American manufacturers are forced, for reasons ranging from economic to logistical, to seek out the best parts they can find in the world.

I have to disagree with that statement. What I see is American manufacturers are forced to seek out the parts that will meet their minimum requirements for the lowest possible price from anywhere in the world.
There's a difference.
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about KelTec and HiPoint?
Got some of both, great firearms for the bucks!
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Fahren
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Love my Fox Creek Leather!

Thinking about the Black & Decker plant that closed in Easton, MD - wondering what the market reaction would have been if they had tried marketing a "Made in USA" line of tools to sit next to their (and others') import tools, instead of just shipping the jobs overseas. How many patriotic Americans are willing and able to pay more for US-made goods?
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I have to disagree with that statement. What I see is American manufacturers are forced to seek out the parts that will meet their minimum requirements for the lowest possible price from anywhere in the world.
There's a difference.




Most computer components cannot legally be made in America due to the harmful chemicals contained in them and also due to the manufacturing process.
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>so what exactly is meant by made in America anymore?

There is a legal definition (visit the FTC's website) and a philosophical one.


quote:

I have to disagree with that statement. What I see is American manufacturers are forced to seek out the parts that will meet their minimum requirements for the lowest possible price from anywhere in the world.




If Buell were restricted to American Made parts there would be no Buell. It's not a matter of price.

Don't get me wrong . . once you narrow the field to say 5 wheel manufacturers (by the way, there are none in America) you start looking to optimize a matrix of metrics that include ability to supply on time, how innovative their engineering folks are, adherence to QA/QC and yes . . price. But, at least in the case of Buell Motorcycle purchasing, price was weighted lower than most folks would guess.

I hope America eventually returns to the day when MADE IN AMERICA (and for that matter UNION MADE) mean something.

There was a day when MADE IN AMERICA was a soto voce' assurance of quality. Similarly, there was a time when UNION MADE conferred an assurance of quality and that the workers had benefited from excellent training, were using safe and efficient means and methods.

I'd love, in my lifetime, to see a return to what my Grandfather (Johnson-Canfield Electrical Contractors, Inc.) and my Father (Mid-West Line Builders, Inc) experienced where folks, from across the nation sought to hire Dad and Granddad to build their high tension lines because they knew the projects would be done right and on time. Dad still holds the record for the fastest power line built in America . . . 184 miles in 11 months as featured on the cover of Quality Contractor in 1964.

I think we can do it but before we do we'll need a clean sweep of these lazy folks in Washington (that's republicans and democrats), a return to family values (the days you did't talk like a sailor at the dinner table and you'd not dream of picking up a fork until your Mother was seated) and a gross departure from our "entitlement" mentality where an entire graduating class was pronounced "co-valedectorians" to avoid the uncomfortable situation of having one student be "the best".

I did my part by flunking a graduate student at Columbia last semester who had 4 degrees and was the product of the "no child left behind" generation. I had no qualms telling the lazy person they lacked the mental fire power and that if they thought I was giving them a passing grade simply because they'd been admitted they were sorely mistaken.

We can do much better than we are.

If the federal government (the geniuses who've been "in charge and fully responsible" for that oil spill for the last 1/3 of a year) were in charge of AMA racing . . . . . all the competitors, as they rounded the last turn, would wait for all the back markers and cross the finish line like the Ohio State Marching Band crossing the 50 yard line.

We're not stupid people . . . . but we've taken a vacation there.

Court
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy-
I'm pretty sure it's more of a 'cost of' toxic material handling and disposal than it is of legislation of an overall process.
The legal manufacturing processes aren't cost-effective in our land, hence they're farmed out to poor nations where toxins are ignored.
Amazingly, the opposite occurs with some toxins.
The herbicide Atrazine, used in no-till corn production across the US, is manufactured in Switzerland, where its use is actually banned.
Atrazine is associated with sever endocrine disruption and cancer.
The herbicide 2,4-D, the active ingredient in the Agent Orange that permanently affected thousands of US GIs in Viet~Nam, is now used in a multitude of homeowner products for keeping walkways clear of weeds.
America's political machine legislates in strange ways.

(Message edited by tramp on July 09, 2010)
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