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Sifo
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pretty sure I remember reading something about it using the X series Sportster engine which is where the X comes from with the B being the Buell derivative (more power).

Court, any official word on the naming conventions?


I thought it stood for the X-Brace in the frame design. Take the air box off and look at the frame.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

/blue{I've been looking at Ducati lately.}

Local dealer is having a demo day for the new Monster 796 next weekend!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My point was that the HD based air-cooled motor derived Buells are dead. It doesn't mean that there isn't a market for air-cooled bikes.

Rotax can build Erik whatever is needed. My guess, though, is that we won't be seeing a niche air-cooled offering for a while.

Superbike with homologation in the sites is what is in order.
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Rwven
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Superbike with homologation in the sites is what is in order."

Would that be "getting back to the core market"?

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Firebolt020283
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would say give it time. Obviouly EB's first priority is racing right now so to do so he needs to make a street bike that can go racing. Then once that gets off the ground then he can expand his product base. I mean look at how buell started out. Used too there was only one model at a time. Then in 96 they expanded to 2 models and 97 to 3 models and so forth up until the end were they was up to 9 models and 2 special order models(xb12xp and 1125rr)
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been looking at Ducati lately.

Monster 696 FTW!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would that be "getting back to the core market"?


Yep.

Just not HD's core market. Erik wants to race. You need to have production street bikes to do that. To win (consistently at more than just short tracks), Erik needs just a little more HP.

I believe this is why a new street bike is on the horizon.
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Crackhead
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hummm...... How about issuing a recall on the 1125 that would require a motor replacement with 1190?
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Up until now I was just coasting on hope that things would. I'm officially at eager friggin anticipation.

Can we call it the Erik Buell Racing Patriot? it is American after all. And I shall put Buell logos on mine and send photos to Wandell, along with a a salute consisting of my favorite 2 fingers..one on each hand ; )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Worked for Aprilia. ; )
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad I bought a cheap bike for now. Time to start saving for my Erik Buell Racing track weapon. : )
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Cochise
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The FU...priceless!!!!!
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Stirz007
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch - add Vindicator to that list. I love the irony.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do like the WWII bike names.
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Methed
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FWIW, there were a lot of BII parts on the 1190 on display at Erik Buell Racing yesterday, some opf which look to have already be mass-produced, if only in initial quantities.
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

F 4 U, Corsair..

The Corsair had unusual up swept "gull wings" and was an fierce air supremacy air craft of ww2 in the later pacific battles, they were considered the air craft of choice. Because they could absorb damage, and cound deliver punishing fire on an enemy air craft.
The common tactic was to dive on their adversaries generaly taking them out.
Few japanese flyers survived those attacks.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the F-8 Crusader.

It was the last American air dominance gun fighter.

It had the highest kill/death ratio during the Vietnam war at 19:3.

I also like the Phantom.
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Joshinga
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2011 Buell Tomcat Get yours Today!!!!!

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Daschunk
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A '-cat' series could be cool.

"Hellcat 1190"

Got a ring to it.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

some opf which look to have already be mass-produced,




Some yes... I was involved with a few B2 parts. 1 of which needed some major & costly revisions. I'm not sure what's happening with the tooling for the B2 parts either. Are they Erik's? IIRC, we had to stamp "Property of HD" or some such on the rail.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, did anyone who went to Homecoming twist Erik's arm and get any additional info on what's coming next?
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

he doesn't sit still long enough to twist his arm.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The Eddie Buell Superbike by CanAm"
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

he doesn't sit still long enough to twist his arm.

This thread now contains a fact ; )
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So HD corporate needs to allow EB to produce the bike, correct? NOt to pee on the party, but what makes anyone think it will happen...does anyone believe HD will allow this to happen for good PR?
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Svh
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While having a good conversation with Erik at HC I brought up that Geoff made mention of something big coming the week after Road America. He got very tight lipped and said there was "nothing". One word answers are hardly the norm for Erik the times I have talked with him.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

svh- did those tight lips have a slight upwards curl or downward curl when EB said nothing?
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We got NO OKRA for dinner.

Everything else is irrelevant.
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Svh
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Neither unfortunately. He kept a good poker face for sure.
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys know he is not allowed to talk about anything until after his contract expires, why torture the guy? You know he wants to say something (good, bad, indifferent) but he is not allowed and asking him may even put him into some inner turmoil.

When his contract expires I would like to think that the motorcycle companies are standing in line to contract for specific jobs or to hire him as a regular employee, that is assuming he want to go back to a regular job. He has good proven engineering skills, with real production machines to show for it, that should mean something to any company looking for a vehicle engineer (he would probably make some really cool cars too).
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