| Author | Message | ||
     Just_ziptab |
Bad guys first shot was a "click". What a dumb way to avoid a ticket. He chose death instead. | ||
| Augustus74 |
I see he crashed but do you know for sure that the cop killed him?? | ||
| Just_ziptab |
I got that in an email from a firearms concealed/carry instructor. " driver of the vehicle (suspect) died of his wounds". | ||
| Bosh |
Wow... that cop was LUCKY! The POS's gun looked like it didn't go off when he first pulled the trigger? Maybe the safety was still on or something. Good shooting Mr. Cop! One more bad guy we don't have to worry about. | ||
| Bosh |
It looks like the cop couldn't believe what happened at first, I think he thought the guy in the car was messing around or something. Wow. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
They found out later that the hammer fell on a spent case in the revolver. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Yeah, the cop was like, "what the hell??" And he proceeded to act appropriately for that situation. Some might say he fired too many times, or that he shouldn't have fired at all... those people are just wrong. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I'd say he should have put another clip in.... | ||
| Whatever |
The scumbag got what he deserved. Someone or something wanted that officer to go home in one piece... just sayin... (Message edited by Whatever on June 16, 2010) | ||
| Gunut75 |
The LEO did just fine. Good stance and weapon control. He has obviously been to the range. I say good for the LEO. The bad guy got what he deserved. | ||
| Crackhead |
I hope he was wearing depends | ||
| Bishopjb1124 |
If you listen his voice stayed calm and collected for just having a gun shoved in his face. Great show of our awesome men and women working. Jimmy | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
I'm hoping and assuming there was no one else in the vehicle. Being drunk and doing something that stupid, this person may have had children in the car, ya' know? Absolutely sure Officer did the right thing, Just hope 'perp' was alone. A case in Florida that My sister is a witness to, was that a guy tried to run down Police, and when they fired into vehicle, the Girlfriend was killed, instead. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Although I sympathize with the law officer, the obvious fact is that he was using lethal force even though he was not being threatened at the time. Around here, that might get him in a lot of trouble, or at least a suspension and investigation. As mentioned above, his action could have caused death or injury to third parties, either in the vehicle, or as a result of the actions of the perp in escaping and crashing. Might have been a better idea to call it in, set up a road block. He did have full id on his car cam. Anyway, I'm glad he shot the son of a bitch, and I hope he keeps his job. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The officer knew who was in the car by looking as he walked up to the window. The criminal showed a unique level of disregard for the law by firing on an officer. Someone who is willing to do this is also willing to run other drivers off the road, fire more shots, take hostages, etc. The officer's life, and the lives of others, were at risk. There was no guarantee that this guy wouldn't have turned around, rammed his squad car, stranding him without back up, and proceeded to hunt him down until the officer was dead. They were on a dark empty road with no innocent bystanders. If they had allowed him to run, he might have escaped, or got into another shootout killing an officer. This was the most controlled environment to end this situation with the least amount of collateral damage. Good job. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
Down here in Lakeland a few years ago a drug dealer killed a cop and his dog after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign. S.O. spent all night looking for him, found him and SWAT put over 700 rounds in him. When the family asked why he was shot so many times, Grady Judd simply stated, "Cause we ran out of bullets!". This douche above deserved his death sentence! | ||
| Hex |
Why people get themselves in these situations is beyond me. Always respect our Police. Cop got lucky, bad guy drew a blank. It reminded me of Errol Morris's The Thin Blue Line. In that movie/documentary, the cop was not so lucky. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I bet you won't see that LEO square off in the open window. It's why most stand at the "b pillar" where a driver can't fully see them and would have to turn in their seat or draw over their shoulder to fire a shot. | ||
| Delta_one |
granted I have the up most respect tor our heroes in law enforcement but I don't know about the civilian sector law enforcement but the officer returning fire from behind an escaping vehicle would have been TONS of trouble with security forces. if you shoot a man in who is not currently in the act of threatening life you are wrong shoot him in the back and you are even more wrong he may have gone on to commit crimes based off of his previous brazen acts yes but nobody knows that for sure. the officer was lucky he lived and considering the circumstances adrenaline and such I don't think he will be convicted of anything but I am betting they will keep a close eye on him in the future. (Message edited by delta_one on June 16, 2010) | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
once i was pulled over and the cop had his hand on his pistol. Kinda pissed me off as I didn't do anything other than speed. I watch this and get why.. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
If that cop got in trouble for that and I was on the jury.... I would thank him for removing that person from the gene pool right after he was acquitted | ||
| Reepicheep |
I think there is a "survival protocol" to it as well. Once you are in that kind of situation, everything just happens too fast to make complicated objective judgements. You need a *real* simple list.. 1) Does the person represent a threat to you or others? (answer... yes, he just shot at me). 2) Do you have a clear line of fire? (answer... yes, inspected t he car when I walked up, and the road is empty). 3) Are you out of ammo yet, or is the suspect out of range, or is the suspect clearly incapable of continuing the attack (answer... I think the cop ran out of ammo about the time he no longer had a good clean shot and about the time the vehicle did stop being an immediate threat). If you train to hesitate, you will hesitate, and likely die. The aggressor already has a lot of advantages to choose the time to attack. I hope I never had to apply deadly force to defend myself or somebody else, and I work hard every day to avoid being in that situation (not hard, as I'm not a soldier or cop, and work in live in safe areas). If I do ever have to do it, after I decide it is can't be avoided in any way, the path from "decide it is appropriate to initiate" to "decide to stop" will be as broad, swift and complete as I can possibly manage to make it. That's what it looked like the cop did to me, and he looked as professional as they come. IMHO of course. Sorry the drunk idiot made a decision that got him killed, and I'm very glad the cop got home alive. (Message edited by reepicheep on June 16, 2010) | ||
| Delta_one |
answer no he has his back to you; no one else is in the vehicle as it was inspected on approach, and the road is empty. he DID pose a threat not long before but that moment has passed and the treat has been mitigated
+1 to that I don't blame the officer for how he responded but I also do not think it was the absolutely correct thing to to IMO it would have been better to bring the perp in alive. (Message edited by delta_one on June 16, 2010) | ||
| Jandj_davis |
I love the cop's response. It was almost a "are we really playing this game?" type response. All I can say is he is one luck SOB. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
IMO it would have been better to bring the perp in alive. Someone (other than the perp) would have died in that process. If this guy pulled a gun over a simple traffic stop he obviously had something he was trying to hide. He pulled a gun, fired and hauled ass. He wasn't going to go down without a fight. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Delta_One, because his back is to the officer does this mean he can't put the gun over his shoulder or under his arm and continue to fire? This was a good shoot in every way possible. | ||
| Buellkowski |
It may come down to jurisdictional interpretation. Some states have looser restrictions regarding LEO use of lethal force against a fleeing felon. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Although I sympathize with the law officer, the obvious fact is that he was using lethal force even though he was not being threatened at the time. Around here, that might get him in a lot of trouble, or at least a suspension and investigation. Did you watch the video? The driver pointed and fired at the officer. Before the driver even fired the officer was justified in shooting back. | ||
| Bishopjb1124 |
quote: 1) Does the person represent a threat to you or others? Yes he is drunk (potential to hit and kill your family) and armed (rob and rape your wife/daughter at gun point or mug your son) and pulled a weapon on a police officer, IMO he will not hesitate to pull it on an innocent civilian. Everyone justifying this azzhole and saying the cop could get in trouble is why this country is in the situation it is in. Lets defend every little MF'er that does bad things and not stand behind those doing their jobs. Jeez people how would you react in this situation, give the perp a hug, make sure he has a nice jail cell to stay in, with cable and internet. YES MOST OF YOU WOULD. When our cops are out here struggling to make ends meet and our service men and women are living in mountainous desert regions for months on end without a shower, or even a hot meal. Let me ask you all this WHO THE F%&@ ARE ANY OF YOU TO QUESTION WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG. A VAST MAJORITY OF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A SITUATION CLOSE TO THIS BUT YOU SURE AS HELL WILL SET BACK AND BANTER THIS COP FOR DEFENDING HIS LIFE. UNTIL YOU HAVE WALKED A MILE IN THIS MANS SHOES STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stepping down off my soapbox now. Jimmy | ||
| Firebolt32 |
Jimmy...  |
