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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check this out:

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=4 0649

bullshit. My guess is a thinly veiled sobriety checkpoint....don't we have rights like every other American?
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DoubleU Tee Eff were the Utah "safety nazis" thinking?

This so often happens when well-intentioned folks don't consider the unintended consequences of their "good ideas."

At least they withdrew it.
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Iamike
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't have a problem with safety/sobriety checkpoints as long as they stop every vehicle or 1/5. But to only pick on motorcycles is illegal.

You would think that after how many times now that this has happened that the cops would get the message that they can't just pick on one type of vehicle.

They just did one like this on I-380 where they ran all vehicles off through a weigh station. Using drug dogs to first screen each vehicle and do a quick check of DLs and registration they ran 100s of vehicles through with very little inconvenience.

They also had cops stationed to pick up anyone obviously trying to turn around and avoid the stop. I can't remember the exact figures but they nabbed 1-200 scofflaws, don't recall how many of these were vicious criminals.
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let us see what happens at Americade this Year. That was a Fiasco itself with the help of New York's finest.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Mikexlr650
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Americade! hah, NY is way dif than Utah, there will be no viel of public safety. they will be there to collect taxes, the NY way of life. this has been goin on in NY since I started attending marcus Dairy sundays in the 80's. always thought it was illegal to profile just one "group"!
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Bikertrash05
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"He said there was a Federal grant that was issued in order to advance rider safety, and it was a six-hour window that the Highway Patrol had to stop riders, take them off their motorcycles, to give them a little discussion about rider safety and road awareness and give them a little pamphlet and just talk to them. The whole thing was supposed to take 90 seconds to two minutes and let them be on their way."

Yeah, right. Even if this was the truth, it is still the stupidest thing I've heard. What, we need babysitters on the road now, interrupting our rides, holding our hands and telling us how to ride safe? F THAT!
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, sort of funny that some officers are gonna give motorcyclists some tidbits of advice!

I guess when you put on that badge you become an expert in all things related to motorized transportation? I sure hope they had the common sense to make sure they had the bike riding officers giving the advice.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am a proud sponsor of the Long Beach Motor Patrol Association.

Having said that, I have witnessed some motor officers doing some very, very stupid things on motorcycles.

I figure my donations will pay for their medical bills, and hopefully one day save me from a ticket.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I figure my donations will pay for their medical bills

Nah, that will fall onto the taxpayers shoulders--just like when the cops violate someones civil rights and cause million dollar verdicts against the City. Guess who pays that bill?!?!?
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not going to bash to HWY Patrol on this as it wasn't their call or idea to make this happen. This came from higher up and they were told to make it happen. Sounds like the great elected stupidity.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What next? Are they going to set up a check point to stop only those driving a Toyota Prius to warn them they might experience a stuck accellerator??

I am all for safety, but what occured doesn't sound like it was done in the best manner. Good intentions, but

Big

for effort...
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What next? Are they going to set up a check point to stop only those driving a Toyota Prius to warn them they might experience a stuck accellerator??


I was caught up in something like that. Granted the LEO's were looking for a kidnapped kid, but they were stopping only silver cars/trucks. That's when I had my F150. The lovely officer checked out my truck, pointed to everything illegal about and let me go.
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Tepiddeath
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paint_Shaker... how exactly would they stop the prius with the stuck accellerator?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 03:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hate that they did this at all... but look at it this way for a second:

What if you were the patrol officer being ordered to actually DO this... how do you think you would feel being asked to do something like that, knowing it would mean at least a suspension if you didn't go out and do it?

I know how I feel when I am asked to do something incredibly stupid or wasteful. Most of the officers are pretty much regular guys like us. It's the jerks that call so much negative attention to them, just like any other subset of our society.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A friend of mine from the Denver area rode out to the track from Salt Lake all three days of the event, we met up Sunday morning and their lead guy, on a 1098 was doing 55 on the interstate (65mph posted limit). I asked when we got there if there was a bike problem.

Buddy says, "No, we've almost gotten pulled over three times so far... Highway Patrol are a$$h8l3s. We watched one snap his head around and try to turn around last night when we passed him."

So I asked how fast they were going.

120 or so.

Many riders were completely safe riders this weekend, but many others were drawing the attention of law enforcement and those that direct them. Stupid to think you can pull over and educate every dude on a bike leaving an event. But some of the bikers may have drawn the attention of the higher ups and prompted this project that may have fit within the grant's timing window too.
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