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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

"The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 -- and BP's lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions -- show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated an accident of the scale of the one unfolding in the gulf."



Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

"If U.S. officials had followed up on a 1994 response plan for a major Gulf oil spill, it is possible that the spill could have been kept under control and far from land.

The problem: The federal government did not have a single fire boom on hand."
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll be sure to watch for that on the new tonight, lol.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil Spill Was ObamaBush's Fault.
Silly Bastard, you made a typo ; )
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it was Dick Cheney's fault. His shotgun misfired and blew a hole in the damn thing 5000 feet down.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess since the oil is making landfall in Louisiana, it really IS Bush's fault.

He is so diabolical, he used a black man to create an oil spill to coat Louisiana in oil because he hates black people.

Damn, he's one Machiavellian mofo. : |
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll have to check the news and see if everybody is standing on the roof again...
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil Spill Was Obama's Fault

Actually, it was those pesky UFOs. The executives at BP all forgot to wear their tinfoil hats, and the Aliens got to them with their mind rays.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tinfoil hats only defend against black helicopters...

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Buellkowski
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From the article: "I'm of the opinion that boosterism breeds complacency and complacency breeds disaster," said Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) on Tuesday. "That, in my opinion, is what happened."

Folks whine about Fed regulations being a hindrance to commerce and business, then whine again when the lack of regulation they lobbied for results in disaster. They'll whine again when stricter regulations are implemented in response.

And so it goes...
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nevermind... my bad...

(Message edited by Whatever on May 05, 2010)
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://epa.gov/enforcement/nepa/index.html
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.mms.gov/eppd/compliance/nepa/policy/ce/ index.htm

Categorical Exclusions are standard process in all environmental permitting.
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Charlotte; don't confuse a good argument with facts.
I'm telling you it was the Venusians. Jack Nicholson explained it clearly in the movie Easy Rider. Check out the scene where he,Peter Honda and Dennis Hopper are camping in the Louisiana Bayou.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah. everyone here knows Obama's plan is to continue Bush's plan to ruin this country.
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, Rocket, we can give this to Your leader. It's time to take off the training wheels, and let junior go ON HIS FACE!
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes Iam so glad the illegal war(s) have ended and the patriot act nullified and the dont ask dont tell policy lifted. And gas, nobody gotta worry bout gas prices going up cuz da oil man out of office.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Manbearpig. He owns the patent to that oil eating bacteria. Making a killing off of it.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NOPE. Obama is going to own every single bad thing that occurred after the oath of office.

That's the way the game is played.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're underestimating the power of manbearpig!! He's one sneaky SOB. Word on the streets is he is Wandell's stepbrother. Coincidence? I think not!

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Texastechx1
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ROFL at the manbearpig referance
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 05:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeez, you guys don't half get wound up don't you.

They're a f*****g politicians for f***s sake!

Of COURSE it's not their fault, throw as much mud as you like, none of it will touch them & all you get is dirty hands.

If we're playing the blame game here, it must be the American people's fault for voting in which ever president can be shown to be at fault.

Or if we're going all the way to the end of this road, ultimately, it's God's fault, & therefore done for a divine purpose.

Gimme a break.

I presume while we're at it that Obama will be found, by some tortuous process, to be responsible for the volcano eruption in Iceland too.
After all the airlines need somebody to sue for their losses.
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Dbird29
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I blame the French
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, I have a serious question. Apologies in advance.

So we got oil shooting out of a man-made hole in the earth...

Do volcanos, or for that matter earthquakes, ever loosen up holes and cause "natural" spills?

Just curious. As a sentient mammal, we spend so much time blaming and making ourselves out to be evil when sometimes, sh!t just happens...
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know if the cause could be volcanoes or earthquakes, but natural spills do happen.

As long as we are talking about politics & BO there is a car that I drive past every day that has a "Defeat Bush" bumper sticker and a "Vote Obama/Biden" bumper sticker. Suddenly this week both stickers have been taken off.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Breaking News on Cause of Transocean/BP Macondo Blowout

Reportedly the driller's face shield fogged up.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was wrong It isn't the Venusians, it's the Charmins. They decided to stop circling Uranus and wiping out Klingons; and take on a really crappy job.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ch ch ch Charmin.






I'm sure.
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Yachius
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

@Midknyte: Offshore oil wells are pressurized by pumping in seawater to force oil out of the ground. Inland wells are also pressurized although by different means.

Natural undersea faults occur all the time and any oil that is released generally just mixes with the layer of sediment on the ocean floor. The small amounts of oil that make it higher up are quite literally a drop in the ocean.

One of the damage control efforts underway is the drilling of a new well into the same reservoir that should be able to relieve the pressure from the leaking well. New wells can take up to 90 days to complete.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Midknyte the ans. to your question is yes I remember a earth quake in Sumatra that shered off the poduction string in 80% of the well in that field it took me 18 mo's to kill every well in that field. we were very lucky most of them were under ground . how ever we did have a good many that were producing to the atsphere on a 1 acre choke.
and remember when a high presure zone charges a low presure near the surface it is damn difficult to finish the drilling of the rest of the field as you have ahigh pressure near the surface.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yachius where in hell did you learn that.There is a number of zones that are very high presure. The methoid of pumping salt water in a old zone is called water flooding and is used to strip oil from zones that are near deplated.-- also a lot of wells are produced by intermiting gas (h p) down the anlus to gas lift out the crude.
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