| Author | Message | ||
     Ft_bstrd |
Do they REALLY need Swissauto to build an air-cooled v-twin? I only saw one thread on this. To me, it's a weird as HD acquiring MV unless they are going to do something with it. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Well they have expressed interest in getting into sportbikes recently. I wonder who they want to design them? | ||
| Reg_kittrelle |
..and so, the stars begin their alignment | ||
| Wheelybueller |
And I hope not,My personal opinion they are crap,Polaris that is........  | ||
| Americanmadexb |
Polaris is crap? news to me! There first run quads needed some attention, but the stuff they have out now is great! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
..and so, the stars begin their alignment That wouldn't be planning out Erik Buell's future would it? | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
i have to agree with americanmadexb...i have NEVER had ANY problems with my polaris's...my predator 500 got caught in a flood, to the point where it actually flipped it over. It had roughly 3 GALLONS of water in the bike, between the engine, exhaust and EVERY place else it could get into, as well as 70 POUNDS of mud in it, including the in the Carb and within 3 DAYS after we got it out my friends dad had it running better than it ever had before!! He was just trying to see if it would crank over and as soon as he BARLEY touched the starter button she came to life as if nothing had ever happened!! I LOVE my BUELL and my POLARIS...and a little off topic but my FORD as well lol...i ONLY buy AMERICAN vehicles, and they have yet to let me down!! FWIW Jake | ||
| Spdrxb |
Their stuff is a little pricey dont ya think? More so than HD. ( bikes I mean) | ||
| Americanmadexb |
Pricey? Yes. Better quality then HD? Yes! (Message edited by americanmadexb on April 17, 2010) | ||
| Spdrxb |
Ya no doubt better quality than HD. I like the Hammer s just seems to expensive for what it is. | ||
| Brumbear |
Victory is a first class motorcycle thats for sure. I can't say anything as for the quads though I never owned a polaris As for Ford nah I aint going there cause I bought a Camry to replace the lemon law ford and you can guess the rest. | ||
| Wheelybueller |
My comment was Bike related,(Their ATV's are ok),The transmissions feel like a 4 speed Shovel,they "Fuel"like an early Magneti Marelli System.And the Handling............ again,jmpo RQ | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
hahaha its all god brumbear...ive got a little bit older one.. a 91' F150 with the 300ci. (4.9L) Straight 6 in it and 4 wheel drive, with a E4OD auto trans in it...that thing is a TANK! ive NEVER gotten stuck and can go damn near ANYWHERE i want to go with it...just needs lockers lol... Ive had water over the hood, and gone over boulders the size of an HD Electra Glide LOL...That engine also redlines at MAYBE 4500rpm, ive had it to 6000RPM on more than one occasion (mud) and it NEVER skipped a beat, i CANT kill it!! also had about a quart of water in the oil for over 2000 MILES and it still ran/runs GREAT!! I LOVE MY TRUCK!!    with quad and truck  the truck was my grandpa's before he passed, he bought it BRAND new 3months after i was born, i wouldnt trade it for ANYTHING!! Jake | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
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| Glitch |
I always wanted a V4 | ||
| Patches |
The Replacement?  | ||
| Cityxslicker |
mmmm orange.... damnit the next bike is for the dirt, then another streeter.... | ||
| Crackhead |
The 300 is a tank of a motor. My dads had over 350k known miles. When we swaped the 2nd trans, the spedo cables didn't match. So for about 75k the odo didn't keep track. | ||
| Pwnzor |
My brother had a '95 F150 with the 300ci six-banger in it... that thing regularly hauled 2000 pounds of machine parts over the Grapevine at least once a week. He got 260,000 miles on the ticker and sold it for $4000. All original, 4 speed manual. My '97 F150 with the 4.2L v-6 got 320,000 miles and still running strong when I sold it for $3500. Original engine, trans and rear end. Only one waterpump and one alternator in it's whole life. Victory is far and away a better product than a Harley, I say this having test ridden 3 brand new Harleys and 4 brand new Victory's at IMS a few months ago. Fit, finish, power, value. | ||
| Reg_kittrelle |
Re Fat B.: Nope. Referencing specifically the Victory Cross Roads. It is a superior motorcycle in almost all respects to its avowed competitor, the H-D Street Glide. And, at a grand less in price. This evaluation does not necessarily hold true across the Victory lineup, just with the Cross Roads. | ||
| Skinstains |
I'm almost old enough to get me one of those land yachts and when I do it will be a Victory Vision. Everything the H-D should be. I can't wait 'till h-d finally burps out it's last stinking breath of life. FTF !!! | ||
| Glitch |
Honestly I'd much rather H-D see the error of their ways, and get back to riding as the main attraction, rather than the image thing. I don't want to see them die, enough American industries have died. All they really need to do, is hire upper management that has a passion for riding. Am I upset with corporate H-D for murdering Buell? Yes. But, the sting gets less as time goes on. Erik seems to be happy, and looking forward. H-D just needs to do the same, look forward. Times are indeed hard, but, not impossible. This is America after all. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Re Fat B.: Nope. Just checking. Your statement just kinda sounded like the unfounded hypothesizing you decried in another thread. | ||
| Swampy |
Speaking of the above Victory: The problem is, sure it is an air burner, V-twin, but is the intent lost in the design? Any brake but the ZLT brake is substandard, Not putting the fuel in a frame around the engine will result in substandard handling resulting in a tiring ride due to the bike being top-heavy. It will take at least 10-20 years and some really dedicated individuals before we jump to the next level of motorcycle technology. Any other design that does not depart radically from what we have seen in the XB series is now just an "Old School" design, and any minor improvements can be compared to the "Bold New Graphics" improvements. It will be the "Next Series" beyone the XB line. In the 200 year plan of Buell Motorcycles there is a next level of motorcycle technology, that has not been put to paper yet....because if it was already on paper then H-D(spit) would own it and in its corporate jelousy would have tied it up and thrown it in the basement along with the Barracuda. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Although a HUGE fan of the XB platform, I SERIOUSLY doubt any offering from BRP, Victory, or Buell will be an air-cooled v-twin. That was a construct born out of compromise. Until the 1125 platform, that power plant was one of the single largest hindrances to larger consumption. | ||
| Brumbear |
Having a water cooled version of the Buell and seeing how different it is than air cooled I would like to agree but ya never know? The platform sells thats for sure if Victory introduced the above bike I would give it a serious look and so would allot of folk just because. I sold my XB cause I had to not cause I wanted to even though I prefer riding the water cooled bike there are days when I really miss the XB. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Time will tell. It will be interesting to see if the Honda air-cooled engine will be available in the US and how it will do. Ducati is able to market air-cooled engines successfully as does Triumph and BMW. The question is whether a 45 degree motor reminiscent of the XB platform under some other banner would be accepted. Some bought XBs because of the HD ties. Others bought them in spite of the HD ties. Were I running BRP or Victory and wanted to start a sportbike line, an air-cooled power plant isn't where I would start. | ||
| Ulynut |
Some bought XBs because of the HD ties. Others bought them in spite of the HD ties. And some, like me, bought an XB because it's an air-cooled, American made motorcycle. (that happens to rock, by the way) | ||
| Delta_one |
why buell XB? naked V twin  air cooled or liquid; there isn't a lot out there for options as far as sport bikes go in this format. even less with what I consider reasonable price to performance ratios. the trilogy of tech had me at hello. fuel in frame for a no slosh ride? drool "in side out" front caliper? OMG yes! under slung exhaust? ooh yes please. | ||
| 2kx1 |
With Buell gone, the the only aircooled bikes with sporting intentions that come to mind are the Ducati Monster lineup and the BMW R1200 and HP2. I do believe there is a large market for them (the Monster has been Ducati's best seller for years) and I wouldn't be surprised if BRP and EBR collaborated on a simple high performance aircooled bike however I think liquid cooling will define the next generation (if any) of bikes from EBR. Now, let's just hope that Erik only goes back 10 years instead of 20 and still wants to manufacture bikes. I do think with his mindset, I do he could come up with the finances to do something on his own and may already be on his way. Who knows? |
