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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

obviously facetious comment

Henceforth, your comments will all be registered as such by me. Since you made no clear delineation, and your point is tired and invalid.
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for letting me know how narrow your mind is Pwnzor... No clear delineation? hmm ok.. here I am stating the war was wrong and started under false pretenses.. and then I facetiously say I would have been fine with it if bush had just told the truth.. and the truth is criminal...
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What repeated acts of hostility towards us by Iraq do you speak of?


Iraqi gunners from firing on American and British planes patrolling the "no flight" zones over northern and southern Iraq
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is in the water up St. Paul/Minneapolis way? Looks like you and m2me drink out of the same well. Why are you re-debating and re-hashing old topics which are not germane to this thread?


(Message edited by reindog on April 08, 2010)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blaze,

Mind discussing the specific information I have posted?

I don't mind dancing, but it is disconcerting when my music is different from yours.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for letting me know how narrow your mind is Pwnzor

Now, that's facetious.... funny stuff.

Facetious... Fascism... Your way or the highway huh?
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So what in those links justified a war how many years after they were written FT?
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Strokizator
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is in the water up St. Paul/Minneapolis way?

It apparently makes great Kool-Aid.

Drink up MF'rs!
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What are you talking about Pwnzor?

Your comment was very narrow minded. I am sure you know what narrow minded means, but i will post it hear anyways...* lacking in tolerance or breadth of vision *

Wouldn't you agree someone is narrow minded who would take one comment taken out of context from someone and use it to judge that person on everything new they have to say?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So what in those links justified a war how many years after they were written FT?

Tell me why what is in those links doesn't justify a war how many years after they were written, Blaze.



I answered your nebulous assertions with SPECIFIC information.

At least supply your refutations in the specific.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dmmblaze,

Go read all your posts on this thread. You are acting in a condescending way while insulting your readers. You have your opinion which is fine but you are coming across as yet another excitable liberal. A little respect and proper spelling is in order. I didn't catch your so called facetious comment either so I guess that makes me laughable also. Cool, I guess I can accept that.
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Xb12xmike
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is not entertaining.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your comment was very narrow minded. I am sure you know what narrow minded means, but i will post it hear anyways...* lacking in tolerance or breadth of vision *

Like most liberals, you resort to name calling and condescension early and often.

I'll not take lessons in semantics from a person who can't spell four letter words or use them in the correct context.
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, so your saying this 1999 new's report with very limited information somehow justified a full scale invasion of Iraq because occasionally they fired in to the air when they saw planes flying over their country? Were any of our planes ever shot down by Iraq?

Can you agree that in 2003 our sole reason for going to war was because we were told Iraq had amassed vast amounts of WMD and it was crucial for our safety to go in and disarm them?

Can you also agree that after the invasion which turned up NO WMD, we only then were given these other justifications for the war? Namely Iraq supporting al-qaeda which turned out to be completely false too?
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P47b
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does it really matter if we invaded under false prentice or not? We are there now in both Afghanistan & Iraq. If we do not stay in these countries and help with the rebuilding we are going to have an even larger problem for every nation.
Look at the last 20 years. The UN with Somalia, Russia with Afghanistan.

Look at the problems that were left with the power vacuum after the pull outs.
Somalia warlords think they won. After Russia got out of Afghanistan the war went on.

We can direct blame at just about every country in this world for causing problems,
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have a point Reindog... I could have said that more diplomatically... but come on? name calling? Saying I can't spell here because I used hear isn't childish?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

occasionally they fired in to the air when they saw planes flying over their country? Were any of our planes ever shot down by Iraq?

So, by this logic, if I drive through Compton and people "occasionaly" shoot at me, I should just keep on going and ignore it?

Give me a break, and for God's sake please spend some time with a dictionary.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saying I can't spell here because I used hear isn't childish?

You are engaged in a serious discussion with adults who take the time to use proper grammar and diction... for the most part.

At least make an effort, you want to be taken seriously right?

You wouldn't go into a job interview and use slang with your prospective employer would you? What sort of respect do you think you'll get when you don't take the time to communicate effectively?

The English language is the second most powerful tool you have at your disposal, the first being mathematics. When you lash about at your wit's end because your argument has run out of fuel, and compound that with weak English skills it speaks poorly for your character as a person.

Plain facts, sir.

I take the time to clearly state my mind and do so with emphasis and punctuation fitting the statement, with properly spelled and thoughtfully chosen words. I take mild offense at those who repeatedly do not.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

R.I.P. Scott Speicher born July 12, 1957 and SHOT DOWN over Iraq January 17, 1991
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We didn't ignore it, we bombed em. Besides that was how many years before the war?

Sorry Pwnzor, please forgive my hear for here. Do misspelled words really bother you that much? You might want to stop reading internet threads then because human error is pretty common.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, so your saying this 1999 new's report with very limited information somehow justified a full scale invasion of Iraq because occasionally they fired in to the air when they saw planes flying over their country? Were any of our planes ever shot down by Iraq?


Here is an expanded timeline of events in Iraq:

http://www.historyguy.com/no-fly_zone_war.html


Can you agree that in 2003 our sole reason for going to war was because we were told Iraq had amassed vast amounts of WMD and it was crucial for our safety to go in and disarm them?

It was ONE of the reasons. Maybe even the main reason based upon evidence amassed from multiple sources including British, French, US and UN.

From October 2003


Can you also agree that after the invasion which turned up NO WMD, we only then were given these other justifications for the war? Namely Iraq supporting al-qaeda which turned out to be completely false too?

Not true. Revisionist history.
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You talk about respect, yet you gave me none from the start Pwnzor.

It is funny how you repeatedly bash my character while espousing a sense moral superiority. Sorry if I don't take myself as seriously as you take yourself.
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a sense of moral superiority... sorry to all of you who will undoubtedly bash me for somehow not putting "of" in that sentence above. I mean no disrespect... hehehe
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the links FT. I will check them out when I have more time and let you know what I think if you want.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's cool.


It's funny what gets selectively "remembered" by both sides. I prefer to go back and pull current news from the time rather than rehashed after the fact stuff.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

pwnzor AND dmmblaze,

Go get a room already.
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Buellboiler
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry to bust into a long argument, but this video has been further reviewed by the media today. Only select portions of the video were shown with emphasis placed on discrediting the US military. Watch the unedited video in real speed then tell me what you see. Given the information from the troops on the ground and it seems as though the close air support was doing it’s job. The first guy that thinks he can do better in the same situation is invited to enlist and show us how it is done.
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Ztferrari
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This turned into a real flame war. Here is evidence that there were weapons and at least one RPG founded at the site

http://i.imgur.com/twrSH.jpg
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Xb12xmike
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, now that sure confirms what most people already new.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WMD?

If you had an area greater than the size of California, unlimited access and a couple of years to hide a dozen or so tractor-trailer rigs,
do you suppose it could be done?

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