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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and I may have posted before already but I dont remember...
So I got the new AR upper.



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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

cream corn cans at 300, 350 yards....
hours of entertainment.

I cant go any further out with 223, dying to get the 308 chamber... next fun purchase
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Puddlepirate
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got a 16" Rock River LAR-8, and it is plenty accurate for that distance. They guarantee 1.5" at 100yds with quality ammo, and I can do better than that with handloads.

Who makes the upper?
What scope?
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DPMS
Center point(spent most everything else on the upper so cheap scope for now)
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B00stzx3
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Remington 870 Tactical, folding stock, shot extension and led torch FTMFW
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Nukeblue
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what kind of ar is that before the r.r. upper?
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nuke, rephrase the Q, im not sure that your asking
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was looking at a bull barrel bolt gun in .308 earlier today. I was trying to find some .45 long colt ammo. I had to settle for Hornady 454 CASULL 300 gr. JHP/XTP/MAG. Not fun to shoot. Bruises the bone between the first and second joint of my middle finger. Expensive ammo for target shooting.

That .223 cost a whole lot more now than when I use to shoot it.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what brand of ar-15 was that before you put the rock river upper on?
so i guess what kind of lower reciever is that?

(Message edited by nuke-blue on April 06, 2010)
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Junkyrddog780
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Delicious! I have a Rock River AR with the stainless barrel. They are fantastic machines.
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

its not a Rock River, neither of them are. never said it was, i stated the new upper was all DPMS, the older one I believe is an Olympic/Olympia...w/e it was a turd w/ a 1:12" twist. New DPMS is 1:8"!

Cavalry Arms 1-piece lower.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like coke cans, used, filled with water. 5 cent targets, and if you miss the bar code.....

Very nice uber-plinker. ( and perfect for a prairie dog or chuck or.... well, Rodent hunting )
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As long as I'm dreaming...

rt
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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the full auto replicas of h and k.
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Stalker
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like someone want to get accurate!
Good call, looks nice.
Break it in gently!
Did you get the complete upper with a bolt and carrier for that upper? The AR platform i believe as versatile as it gets. It is a lot of fun to have multiple uppers just make sure you have separate bolt/carrier assemblies, you can and WILL cause damage swapping the bolt back and forth. Dont make the same mistake I have made.

ENJOY!!
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In the process of building one of those myself. Using a CMMG lower and will be picking up a DPMS upper as soon as I can. Going for 20-22".
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$38k for a 12ga.? HOLY $#!*
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oops dpms, not rock river.
i just picked up an lwrc piston gun with 1-7 twist. floated with quad rail & troy ind buis. it's very strange cleaning the bolt and carrier when there is no dirt!
calvary arms...never heard of that
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ive got a scar coming at the end of the week hopefully. Friday wont come soon enough.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wait! Less twist ratio is better?
I thought that the faster the projectile was spinning, the better.

Or am I inverting the ratio in my head?
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Road_thing
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FBDO: It's a steal at that price...MSRP is $57K...

Trouble is, my $500 (in 1994) 11-87 breaks targets just as hard.

rt
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oooooh... i want a scar! they are $2400 now around my neck of the woods

the faster twist rate (1-7 or 1-8) is needed to stabilize the heavier projectile types like 75 or 77 grain in the .223 caliber. which makes it more of a long range gun. a slower twist like 1-9 or 1-10 is good for varmint weights like 50 grain etc. but they say a 1-9 is ok up to 69 grain or so
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Twist rate also works with muzzle velocity. Higher muzzle velocity gives faster spin with the same twist. Spin a hollow point bullet too fast and it can start to open up on the way to the target. It gets a bit more complicated than simply more/less being better.
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I look at it this way 1:8" with a 24" barrel = 3 rotations before exiting the muzzel. old one was 1:12"/20" so that 1 3/4 rotations before exit. bigger bullet needs more time with the training wheels sorta thing.
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

69gr in a 1:9" is pushing it. thats THE MAX you wanna go. 1:8" loves a 69gr all day long.
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nuke: Cavalry Arms doesn't make them anymore.
http://www.cavalryarms.com/
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sifo,please explain how a higher velocity will make the same twist spin faster??

as i understand one revolution in seven inches will always be one revolution in seven inches.regardless of the speed of travel
edit..
(never mind i thought about it some more sifo i see what youre sayin)
and yeah, 69gr in 1-9 is the top end. my dcm gun is 1-8 and i shoot 69's in matches with that.

(Message edited by nuke-blue on April 07, 2010)
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ferris, interesting lower. i thought it looked one piece. some sort of plastic/resin. not to expensive either. found it for $159

so 1-8 is pretty fast for varmints, this your zombie gun? : )

(Message edited by nuke-blue on April 07, 2010)
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh of course I had the ratio inverted.
The way I was thinking of it, it would have been like pipe threads!
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

we dont have p-dogs in Florida, armadillos, jehovahs witnesses, possums, rabbits, neighbors dog, ferrel cats, raccoons, trespassers, hogs....
if I didn't invite you in my yard, she'll do the talking for me. we own the house across the street, and the boyfriend of the daughter of the family that used to live there has been seen on the property. he has warrants, we have no trespassing signs that read "Violaters will be shot, survivors will be shot again"
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