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Sknight
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FB that is so funny but so true!

I've had one, decreasing radius during a track day got me, I overpowered the front tire, it skipped and went wrong from there.

Throttle and a steering damper (God had a hand in it too, probably 99%+) saved it. That was on a Hayabusa, not even had the front end quiver on the 1125R.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, the GPR is the nicest looking damper I've seen for a Buell.
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Micheal
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"when the front wheel, having lost traction, comes back in contact with the tarmac "outside the rear tire’s alignment", or, outside of its' natural straight line desire". What a Save!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtjQ4SK4GXk&feature =player_embedded
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P47b
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had one on my XB. Found out later the the tire was under inflated by 8 lbs.

This is not a tank slapper. But it is funny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8COCPyB-go&feature =related
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Had a good one on a GT380 with a large cooler full of beer on the luggage rack way out back. Was on a section of 5 lane that curved sharply, and was well used to the turn, so input was normal & reasoned. The C.G. change ( and non damping forks, dented steering head bearings & Satan laughing ) started a wobble & the bike walked across 4 lanes before it went away. Quite spectacular from my point of view.
I take no credit for anything but hanging on, I certainly couldn't muscle it away.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had "shake" on my XB9R when coasting with my hands off the bars. New tires cured it. On my 72 h-d Sprint,I had "oncoming" in my lane on a curve. I went to the shoulder and coming back onto the pavement,got into a full fledged tank slapper that was laying rubber with the front tire. Let go of the bars and it corrected itself. All tho the shoulder was graded pretty close,that twitch between the shoulder and the pavement set it off. X1 tried to do it when I landed a wheelie a bit crossed up. You simply have to land with the bars straight to the bike and correct your course "after" you land. On the other hand,back in the day with my 71 Baja dirt bike,I could go down a gravel road at 50 or so and purposely slap the tank as fast as I could and the bike kept going straight......making a mess of the gravel and spewing said gravel on my ride friends. What fun........
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been there... got the t-shirt!!! LOL

Road Atlanta 2009 WERA GNF. I came off the rumble of Turn 5 somehwere near 100mph. The front, then the rear hit a hole. Violent tank slapper ensued. I was able to get the weight off the the front end and let off the the throttle. I slowed and the tank slapper became less violent.

I think I then touched the throttle and the tank slapper went super violent, tossing me from the bike...
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Ended the suspense" : D
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Among other things I've owned an '81 XS1100RH (the "1.1") and an early GSXR750, and ridden quite a few bikes like KZ1000's and GT750 kettle's, so I've seen a few slappers, but never had an accident because of one.

When I'm buying a bike I like to take my hands off the bars at 80km/h to see what it does. If the suspension is worn or setup badly a bike will often oscillate at that speed.

Freakiest one was a KZ1000ST, belonged to the shop I worked at. Cruising home one night after work, almost home, going up a gentle left hander with a slight crest in it, on a steady throttle... WHACK-WHACK!!! The bars went full lock left, then full lock right... then back to normal as if nothing had happened! Freaked me out just a little.
Worn tires, old suspension, and not the stiffest frame in the world were probably the cause.

The X1 can be twitchy over bumps, but nothing approaching a tank slapper. The 1125R seems to laugh at the mention of the idea : D
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Gunut75
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had "shake" on my XB9R when coasting with my hands off the bars. New tires cured it.
I had the same thing on my 12R. The new tires are suhweeeet!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My friend had a tank slapper occur.

Got home to discover one of his forks completely devoid of fluid.
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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It happened to me on my 1991 Kawasaki ninja 600.
I was riding through the canyon on a right hand slow sweeper and the front tire hit a big pothole.........It went into a violent tank slap and went from lock to lock more than 15 times before i could accelerate out of it. I only knew to accelerate to get it stop because i had seen it on a show on tv. At the exact moment i was in mid tank slapping. I was passed head on by a huge mac dump truck, I kept seeing it coming and thinking im going to splat on the grill like little bug!! Man that was the most scared i have even been!
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Mbsween
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I experienced one, it was on a 1970s Yamaha CS200 (purple and white 2 stroke) . I was trying to do a wheelie, sort of succeeded and must have landed with the wheel turned.

One of the more scary moments I've ridden through. I let go of the bars and sat back, after a couple seconds it stopped and me, with some new paint on the underwear, continued on my merry way
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had a few tank slappers after some unexpected moments with the NineR when it went completely airborne and came down with the front wheel not perfectly straight.

I go limp but still hang on. I try to let my feet fall off the pegs and let your limp-ish body absorb the oscillations. It has worked for me a handful of times. I have not yet went down because of a slapper nor have I felt the need for a dampener on any buell I have owned tube-xb-1125.

I found a demo on youtube, this is the closest demo to my strategy.

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Just_ziptab
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where are the sparks coming from? Tire rolling under the rim? I suppose real magnesium wheels?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He has magnesium/titanium toe sliders. I have some on my boots as well.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh DUH! I see it now. I should have known that with my previous use of steel heels on my boots to light up the roads at night............/
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