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Twig
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is the thing. My Ford station wagon was hit while parked at the curb in front of my house. The damage is severe enough that we think it will be a total loss. The driver of the other car somehow managed to flee the scene. He was driving a 2003 VW Golf. The owner of the car said no one was authorized to drive the vehicle. We have become suspicious of the owner's story. The question is this: how easy would it be for someone to steal that particular car without having a key? Thanks in advance for any response.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know in Poland the Golf is second only to the VW Passat for 2009.


(Message edited by ft_bstrd on March 27, 2010)
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Reducati
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

common story...get drunk, crash your car...flee, report it stolen...hopefully your local police will look into it.
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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There will have to be certain damage to the car for it to have been stolen without the key. The steering wheel lock will be broken if the car was hot wired. If the key mechanism was removed that will be obvious too.

It's probably a BS story.
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well there is a coded key for all v dubs. So if it was stolen it wasnt a casual theft!
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Delta_one
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

VERY HARD!

they key is coded as spidey said as well as the teeth on the key being inside out. Im sure it can be picked but I have no idea how or how hard it would be.

my key died once and it was heck getting everything to work again, new bat.get the alarm to stop re-pair the key get the car to start unlock the radio



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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't know they had a coded key in 2003, I thought it started later but I'm probably wrong.

If it has a coded key, the someone must have had the key to steal it.
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Delta_one
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my late '03 Jetta was coded and individually programmable. It would move the seat and mirrors to programed positions for individual keys as well as the reverse mirror location.

I don't think it did temp or radio but I could have up to three keys with their own profile.
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Rah7777777
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

very hard!

BUT!!! you remember gone in 60 seconds????

Had an inside man at the benz dealer getting them the keys! Which ironically enough is VERY easy to do!

name and a VIN and a couple days wait... your done
( i know....I used to work for benz! I bet I have a few good working keys in my box still... just no address since I personally have no harmful intentions!)

But, odds are the guy your dealing with is just an ass clown and trying to blame someone else for his wrongful doings!
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Ulywife
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Twig - that sucks! Regardless of his story, it's his car and his insurance will be responsible for paying for the damages. Good luck in finding Pabst a new ride.
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't know they had a coded key in 2003,

GM had a coded key as early as 96-97

I think VW started it in 98. I know they had the 'switch blade' in the mid/early 90s cause my cousin had a Jetta back then with the switch ket...
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Leave it to the coppers & the insurance company to investigate.

The insurers have a vested economic interest in finding out the truth, & the Police don't like to be made fools of like that.

If he's been telling porkies he's liable to charges of wasting police time & insurance fraud.

I wouldn't make a nuisance of myself over it but make sure they all know you're not going to let it get swept under the carpet.

I had a similar thing happen many years ago, eventually it cost the guy a lot of money & his job, as it was a company car.

It may take awhile though.

Best of luck with it all.
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U4euh
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Mike did they recover the VDub? If so what kinda shape is it in? Does this person have kids that may have taken it without permission and they are just trying to cover it?
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Pabst
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The car hasn't been found yet. It's technically owned by a woman in Cornelius, NC, bought for her 20 something daughter in High Point. Witnesses said it was driven by a white male, 25 to 35 years, 200 to 300 pounds. When the owner was asked if she knew anyone fitting that description, she mentioned a friend of her daughter named Jason. We have an investigator assigned to the case, as of this past Friday, but he's off this weekend.
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Pabst
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Several pieces of good news: the boyfriend is considered a strong suspect. He has a history of DWI and was positively identified by our neighbor/witness in a photo line-up yesterday. Next, the VW was found yesterday in a parking lot about two miles from the house. The ignition had not been tampered with and it was LOCKED when found. Would someone who had stolen a car, crashed, then fled the scene in the car have bothered to lock it when leaving it? I don't think so. The car has been impounded, there is a warrant out for the boyfriend's arrest, and the girl now possibly faces a charge of filing a false stolen car report.

On Monday I replaced my poor old wagon with a 2002 Toyota Tacoma. We are now a two pick-up truck family (but mine has an extended cab!).
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Fahren
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good truck. ...and sounds like good progress on the insurance.
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Delta_one
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you cannot lock that car without the key...

if you press the lock button inside the door with the door open it will unlock the door again, its a "don't lock your keys in the car" feature that I loved on my Jetta

so no ignition tampering and a locked car...
he most likely had the primary flip key and not one of the spares that don't have buttons

uh oh for the girlfriend! and as for the boyfriend I hope they take his license and make him eat it!

I cannot tolerate DWI's and he has a history of them? how many times could he have killed someone?!?
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Dwardo
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My '94 Buick Roadmaster has a coded key.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you cannot lock that car without the key...

if you press the lock button inside the door with the door open it will unlock the door again, its a "don't lock your keys in the car" feature that I loved on my Jetta


I had that feature on my Scirocco years ago. I found I could defeat it by leaving through the passenger door. It's not FOOL proof!
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