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Milt
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a perforated suit which I'd like to wear when it's cold, so I've been looking into windproof underwear.

I read a review of Spark Camelot underwear that made it sound like it was the next best thing to nirvana. At about $70+$80 as set, it seemed kind of steep to me.

Anyone had any good/bad experiences with this or any other brand? With any particular retailers? Do any sponsors sell this or similar stuff?
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Depends.
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

saran wrap!
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Hex
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not sure I'd survive wearing wind proof underwear at this RIPE old age. It'd be more like STEEPING to me.
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Milt
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm old, but not that old.
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Milt
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been riding for the last several years in a perforated jacket until it gets to about 40F. At 60 MPH, the wind chill really is enough to make the experience very unpleasant.

A thin nylon shell seems to keep the wind out pretty well and makes it a lot warmer.

I bought a set of really nice leathers (also perforated) and was hoping to ride around sub-arctic Chicago soon.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Windproof underwear"...just counldn't help it, the first thing that came to mind when I read that was a fart in a spacesuit.


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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What ever you do you want to keep the wind out at the outermost layer. If the wind is getting down to your underwear you always have fresh cold air coming in to that point. Almost no insulation value at all. I suppose you could get it way to large and wear it on the outside.

I've got a nice touring jacket that works well in the cold and vents so that it's comfortable into the 80's as long as you can keep moving. It's got waterproof zippers that really seal out cold air and water. It also has an elastic cord built into the collar that can be snugged up to keep air out at the neck. Best thing I've ever had for cold weather. Or consider electric.
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Milt
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool. I could look like the Michelin Man.

And nobody will know when this astronaut farts in his space suit!
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And nobody will know when this astronaut farts in his space suit!

Oh yes they will!!
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run a mesh textile jacket in hot summer, and keep the windproof liner in the tank bag. That leaves a moderately thick insulation layer to keep me from hypothermia on cold night runs home. ( here, most of the year, night isn't hot )

Let's say you run a perf leather suit for the protection & versatility, you'd want to cover the outside with a wind layer to trap the heat in the air next to the body. Wrapping the torso in windproof gear under the leather won't keep you warm. Try latex or nitrile gloves while dealing with ice water, hands may be dry, but they won't be warm.

Then again I've got 3 textile & one leather jacket to cover the different temps I ride in, and still don't guess right some days.
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm looking into heated gear myself and am on the fence about which product to buy. Gerbing seems like it's pretty well made and I do know one guy that has the full setup, ie; jacket, pants, gloves and he swears by them. He rides in to work when it's 15 degrees out and says he's toasty warm every time. Personally I think he's nuts, but I want to extend my season also, so I'm starting to wonder exactly how nuts he really is.
I found some decent priced stuff, but it's not from a sponsor here. $129 for the jacket, $189 for the pants, $70 for the controller and maybe $15 or so for the battery harness.

Any other sponsors carry heated gear here with good prices on this stuff?
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Jon
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is an important topic. I've often found that when I go out in public in my underwear and if things get a little breezy, I get a chill.
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Doz
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard of rubber underwear, but I think it has an entirely different intention.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or just wear rain gear when it gets chilly. It will cut the wind and be handy to have when the sky falls.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Carhartt

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Gregtonn
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Surfers' wetsuit.

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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

try this stuff! I like it.

http://www.ruoutside.com/base-layer.html
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 02:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Milt,

You might consider some bicycle supply companies for windproof clothing. Most cyclist prefer close fitting clothing that will work well under your motorcycle gear and can really help to take the edge off when it's cool out.

I have some cycling tights with windproof panels on the front I wear on workdays when I ride in for training (business casual), they are close fitting and don't add bulk but keep me warm when I'm wearing lighter dress pants. They are invisible under jeans and really extend my riding season.

They also sell windproof jerseys or jackets you can put on under your gear. Juts get the bottoms without the padded backside and it will be like wearing long-johns, only better.

I prefer Bike Nashbar and Performance who I've gotten gear from way back when I wondered if I should be ordering from a discount catalog (vs todays buying from the internet source) instead of buying from the local shop.

Anyway, now is a good time to get some end of season clearance deals on the full length winter gear, so you can find pants and jerseys for 50% or more off. Windproof gear is more expensive so the discount is nice.

Mike
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Pso
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Sifo. I have a mesh textile jacket w/a very light removable inner liner. found putting rain jacket over it works great in cool weather.
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