| Author | Message | ||
     Tbolt98 |
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/02/erik-bue ll-racing-1190rr-erik.html | ||
| Cravacor |
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| Tbolt98 |
just noticed EBR website is updated with eyecandy as well!! | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
FUHD! | ||
| Ulynut |
I think it's great to see that bike heading out to the track. It shows that Erik and the rest aren't about to lay down and give up. Instead, they're getting ready to take over! Congratulations EBR! More championships to come!  | ||
| Ducxl |
Power: 185 RWHP @11,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel) Torque: 93.0 Ft-lbf @ 9,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel) WOW.Finally some facts regarding HP. And using a Dynojet.Let's refute that!  | ||
| Froggy |
Dyno chart posted in the 1125 section a while back with both the 1190RR and 1125RR  | ||
| Woody1911a1 |
"And using a Dynojet.Let's refute that" yea well he didn't do it and post it on his www by 1-01-10 like he said so it doesn't count  sorry , i really need to stop drinking and posting .....naaaaaa  | ||
| Liquorwhere |
Dsmcg.... The graph that I posted (as anonymous) was the following; Cory West's New Jersey engine vs one of our mule 1190cc development engines - both using a complete airbox and running AMA mandated Sunoco 260 GTX fuel (non-oxegenated, unleaded, 98 octane fuel; basically really good pump gas) Chassis dyno. This data is generated on a Superflow cycledyn chassis dyno. A standard rear wheel and tire @ 35psi. These pulls are done in 4th gear (17x44 sprockets) useing a "roll on" type run with a constant 10% load on the eddy brake. There is no forced air into the airbox in the dyno cell. Adjustments to the fueling table (for RAM air / high speed load compensation) are made based from on track data logging. The RR spec airbox REALLY allows the engine to breath. EBR website.... Power: 185 RWHP @11,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel) Dsmcg.... Buell (EBR?) also owned (no longer own?) a Dynojet 250 eddy brake chassis dyno which allowed comparison of different makes and models for "apple to apple" back to back tests. Color me confused. | ||
| Blake |
They have two different dynamometers. Why is that confusing? | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
1190RR looks *very* tasty  Looks like it's just a CAD rendering, but bodywork is new (tail section looks great!) and front of the fairing is lower, I assume for lower drag. Specs say front brake caliper is "ZTL2.5", anybody know what's different to ZTL2? | ||
| Court |
>>>>Why is that confusing? This is the internet. Even the most obvious of things can become cognitive hurdles. | ||
| Anonymous |
Perhaps this will help, maybe not. The Superflow has a Dynojet correction factor built in that can converts the power readings it takes to Dynojet equivalent numbers. Superflow numbers are always lower, so the conversion to Dynojet gives higher readings. Why? Both compamies have justification for how they measure power, but it's a moot point really as long as you are measuring things on the same dyno or to the same standard. We verified the Superflow Dynojet conversion factor by running back to back on both types of dynos with many motorcycles. Since Dynojet dynos are much less expensive, they are more common, so we use the Dynojet numbers for public consumption since those are what people see the most. BTW, before this question comes up, the Sunoco 260 fuel used in these dyno runs is the AMA spec fuel, and makes significantly less power than the oxygenated fuels used in most other series. So well over 190RWHP is possible with VP fuel and the like. | ||
| Court |
Look . . if you're going to come in here with facts . . . . well, . . . we don't have to tolerate that !  | ||
| Ourdee |
Stinkin' facts gum up the internet. | ||
| No_rice |
lmao!!! yes facts always seem to cause all kinds of problems. damn you you instigator! p.s. thanks  | ||
| Vasiliy_ru |
Wow... I did the same post but only in other part of forum. | ||
| Boltrider |
Time for Rocketman to eat some crow  | ||
| Liquorwhere |
I don't see my friend Sean eating crow until a corroborated dyno chart exists. Not only do I not see him eating crow, I still don't see any facts...Court...that dyno chart shows me nothing to convince me that the bike puts 185rwhp. (Message edited by liquorwhere on February 27, 2010) | ||
| Cowboy |
Damn that is Erik Buell talking not Obama | ||
| Boltrider |
Hmmm, seems we have another skeptic. To me it's a dead issue because Buell has already put his stamp on it. You either believe it or you don't. Hopefully in 2011 that bike will whip ass on the world stage and the "skeptics" will finally fall in line. But that line is long so they will have to bring up the rear. | ||
| Svh |
I am not a professional by any means but I can read that dyno chart just fine. To me it sure looks like around 11,100rpm it is between 185 and 190rwhp. Am I missing something that is missing from that chart? | ||
| Boltrider |
Exactly!! | ||
| Liquorwhere |
Might be Erik speaking - why not corroborate the numbers..... Without, is just chest beating. Even if I believe, it's still chest beating. My $$$$ need absolute proof if going EBR way. | ||
| Anonymous |
Corroborate the numbers? What kind of comment is that, Lickthere? Facts are "chest beating"? We shouldn't post HP numbers like other companies do, because we are "chest beating"? Calling us liers again? You and Sean, our "biggest fans"? Right. | ||
| Liquorwhere |
Ducati are confident to post on their website 200hp crank for their WSB 1198. http://www.ducati.com/racing/09/sbk/bike/index.jht ml;jsessionid=DPVZGFPMC53PGCRNCB3CFFIKFUIHSIV1?famil y=sbkteam I guess if Ducati are happy with such a low number compared to a bored out 1125 with some forged pistons and strengthened rods, Ducati must be the liars. I mean you got at the back wheel what they got at the crank. | ||
| Aptbldr |
That's one GORGEOUS rear sub-frame pictured @ subject link. | ||
| Ulynut |
Not this krap again.  | ||
| Blake |
Dale, Why such a flaming jackass? | ||
| Bobbuell1961 |
Why such a flaming jackass? every tread needs one  arr } (Message edited by bobbuell1961 on February 27, 2010) |
