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Michelangelo
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On my 1998 S-1W, need to know what size the torq head bolt is to take the derby cover off?
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

t-27
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wish I could tell you, but I think I can help you anyway.

Use a small drill bit and an easy out, then replace the evil fasteners with allen bolts.
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Michelangelo
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's cheaper to buy the correct torx head then to buy an Eazy Out, which I don't have.

I've already tried the tried and true trick of using a flathead driver and an allen head. Not working.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

T-27...
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder if a T-27 would fit....
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If they're already stripped, drill the heads off. They're only tight because of the friction/corrosion between the cover and the back side of the screw head. Once the head is removed, the threaded part will back right out using only your fingers. And replace with allen head machine screws.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use T-20, T-21, whatever it takes. : )
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

T-27

(Message edited by spiderman on February 17, 2010)

(Message edited by froggy on February 17, 2010)
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I assume that if someone asks how to get the derby cover off, the screws are already stripped. My bad.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have apparently missed my Mr. Mom joke Spidey.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

T-27!
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not sure about those tubers. It could be a T27. If not, needle nose vise grips and an air chisel.
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Fahren
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing a 3-lb hammer won't fix. :-)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Nothing a 3-lb hammer won't fix. :-)

Spidey or the bike?

: )
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took out 5 ultras with my head a 3lb hammer would be like one of those inflatable hammers that goes beep...
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SPIDEY SAID (put your fingers in your ears, it's gonna get LOUD)

T27!!


edit: needs more blink : D

(Message edited by froggy on February 17, 2010)
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Bobbuell1961
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It may be a T27, not sure though
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Michelangelo
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It IS a 27. I just bought a set of bits and it works. Lets kill this thread already.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Love the drawing Spidy, you should have won the TT.

I think the contest was rigged though....


I remember when I was 27...I think
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It IS a 27. I just bought a set of bits and it works. Lets kill this thread already.
Sorry, Dr. Frankenstein. You created a monster, and it's alive!
Guess you'll need a new vanity plate:
T274U
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wish someone would answer his original question about what size bit to use instead of continually posting T27! T27!
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wish someone would answer his original question about what size bit to use instead of continually posting T27! T27!


OK, that would be good.


Is it a size issue?

Would bigger be better?
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not really the size, it's more how you wield the tool.
If you go about it carefully, you can get them to strip without even touching them.
Otherwise, if you screw them a certain way, they will strip.
Tight is good.
If they are too tight, though, they'll strip again, but all you will end up doing is holding your tool in your hand, frustrated, staring at your stripped screw.

This knowledge was passed on to me by Allen Phillips, who had a screw loose.

(Message edited by fahren on February 18, 2010)
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know; I once used a T-27 Torx bit to take my derby cover off.
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Drkside79
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Screw the T27 use a crowbar and a hammer.

This is how we fix things on Russian space station...
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Michelangelo
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Torx screws are a crutch!
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now I rarely have a problem retightening the T27 torx screws especially when using the proper sized T-27 torx bit, but I do have problem with removing them when I retighten them too tight, then I have to get out a drill bit and remove the head off the screw. I believe the drill I use has been marked "T-27 torx bit head remover" but I'm not sure, I will let you know when I get back to the garage on Saturday.

I do know that if you use a smaller Torx bit than the correct size, such as using a T-25 Torx bit on a T-27 Torx head screw, you will round it off hopelessly.
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The quad seal is a controlled depth o-ring and if IDIOTS didn't over tighten the fasteners in the first place others wouldn't have fastener removal problems .
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

T27 is about the correct size to clear out my ear wax. (Gotta be careful when digging in there though)
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