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Rah7777777
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:10 pm: |
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"Having had the great opportunity to go through an interesting collection of older firearms, for concealed carry, I would probably choose a CZ-82." I have a CZ-83 ( makarov round ) Its a good little gun! Same size as the 82, But too bulky to carry in my book. Fits great in the night stand or glovebox, but concealed would be a pain I think.} |
Dwardo
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:32 pm: |
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I have a Rossi .357 with a 6" barrel. It is a very nice piece and has a compensator on the barrel to control recoil. I think a .357 with a 2" barrel might be "interesting". |
Azxb9r
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:59 pm: |
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For something small, that is unobtrusive to carry, I like the Walther PPK. The downside is that it is only a .380, so it does not have a whole lot of power. The upside is that it is small and reliable. |
Sort23
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:11 pm: |
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Kahr CW40 |
Johntman
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:21 pm: |
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Kel-Tec P11. Holds 10 in the mag and one in the chamber of 9mm. Small, lite weight, and mine has been reliable and shoots well. It does have a heavy trigger though making it hard for my wife to pull. The plus is it'll take smith & wesson mags from a 6906 for 12+1 rounds or a 5906 for 15+1. |
Jstfrfun
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:47 pm: |
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The nice thing about Nevada is, here in Nye county there is no restrictions on exposed carry. So my silent diplomat is a Rock Island Armory full frame 1911 style I get a lot of wide eyes, but I feel better knowing that the bad guys can see it too. Nothin' like carrying a hog leg! |
Slowride
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:53 pm: |
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.38 cal because only a real expert can get off an effective second shot with a pocket size .357: the recoil is just too punishing. Practice makes perfect Sir... Three in the round from port arms every time. You practice like you shoot in hopes you can do the same in the field. Evade, cover and return fire... fire and move... An expert no, a trained and willing operator... yes! |
Never2late
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:09 pm: |
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Kel Tec in 380, weighs in at 8 oz not real pretty but completely functional to 15 yards it's only for defense purposes. If I plan on getting into a gun fight I'll carry a 357 Sig or 45 acp. |
Ccryder
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:37 pm: |
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Walther PPS in 9mm or .40S&W (a little of a handfull .40 but doable). Great to conceal and plenty of rounds. |
Forerunner
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:47 pm: |
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Until I find the perfect Seattle Detonics Combatmaster NIB this will do, although these pictured are still unfired. Nels |
Sifo
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:14 pm: |
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I have a Rossi .357 with a 6" barrel. It is a very nice piece and has a compensator on the barrel to control recoil. Not a big fan of the compensator idea. Sure it helps you reacquire the target for a second shot. The problem is that self defense situations often happen in low light conditions. The flash will blind you so that you wont see the target anymore, much less your sights. I've also seen warnings (I think on the Springfield Armory web site) not to shoot a compensator weapon from the hip because of the likelihood of burning yourself. Sure if I'm in a position where I need to pull the trigger I'll deal with powder burns if I have to, but I'd rather not have to deal with that. JMHO. |
White79bu
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:52 pm: |
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Kimber Custom II/ Smith&Wesson MP9. It just depends what I wear. I prefer the 1911. I have always prefered a full frame weapon. Although I am thinking about buying an nice small pocket revolver for summer. The 1911 can be tricky to wear in shorts and a t-shirt with a tall thin frame. |
Nm5150
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:26 pm: |
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If you pull the trigger on a revolver in a low light situation you will get to see all the cool places unburned powder comes out of it.Especially a .357.You will go deaf and blind in an instance.Good ammo will help but it is still deafening. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:27 pm: |
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Forerunner, I've always loved that H&K, just couldn't afford them. I just like the safety system. ( I've shot one, the older version with the Euro style heel mag release ) Mike, in simple terms, a snubby lightweight .357 mag. makes a huge fireball, kicks hard enough to hurt, ( while .38 special just stings a little ) and is harder to get back on line for the next shot than the proper load in .38 ( both with a roughly .36" bullet...ammo names are very flakey. ) Is 5 shots enough? around here the predator problem comes in packs, either Coyote or mugger, so, the answer is maybe. Theory says after you shoot the pack leader the beta males will leave.... and most of the time that's true. Concealed carry is tricky though. In NY it HAS to stay hidden or some little girl will scream. ( usually a 40 something male bleeding heart type ) So for my body type, spherical, a flatter package is better, so I like a small semiauto. Kahr is exceptional stuff for the money, but you must I repeat must, put a bunch of rounds down range before you can trust any semiauto. Kahr tells you not to trust your weapon until you've put 200 rounds through it. Break in is real. After break in, if it hiccups at all on your chosen carry ammo, ( you will practice with cheap stuff) try another brand of ammo or bullet shape, don't carry a jam-o-matic, it will get you killed. I also have a preference for a Taurus titanium "bodyguard" style 5 shot .38 with a shrouded hammer. 99+ % of the time, a carry weapon will be used DA, but in the unlikely event that actual precision is called for, & I'm not shaking like a leaf, ( after, I will be ) then I like the option. With modern ammo a .380 is enough. ( marginal...but enough ) A .44 magnum is usually too much, and a .50AE is, oh, heck just too much fun! I like alloy or Ti frames for the corrosion resistance, since I'll be sweating when it's hot out, and Know that MY magic combination of salt and skin acids can destroy a blued finish in a week, even with daily cleaning & oiling. Most of the advice above is good. If you can get the store to fit you with a holster & carry the gun around the store for a few minutes, that is ideal. Check yourself out in a mirror. Sit down. Reach for a high object. ANY pocket gun should be in a pocket holster, and nothing else in that pocket, ever. A dime can jam a revolver like you wouldn't believe, ( as well as wreck any finish no matter what is claimed ) etc. |
Aldaytona
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 09:34 pm: |
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What's the best concealed carry weapon you ask? It's the one you have on/with you, 24/7. That $1,000 Kimber 45 that's sitting at home on your night stand is great and certainly beautiful. But it's not as good as the $20 Saturday night special that's in your ribs while the schmuck gets your wallet (if you're lucky, that's all) and watch. I'll take the S&W "J" frame every time, thank you very much. Had one on me for over 40 years, 24/7. Pulling the trigger results in 5 "bangs", no failure to feeds, stove pipes, magazines falling out, ouch, ect. Do you trust your life with yours? |
Woody1911a1
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 09:56 pm: |
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"It's the one you have on/with you, 24/7. That $1,000 Kimber 45 that's sitting at home on your night stand is great and certainly beautiful. But it's not as good as the $20 Saturday night special that's in your ribs while the schmuck gets your wallet (if you're lucky, that's all) and watch. "
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Nm5150
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 10:03 pm: |
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I have one of those,Woody.Most cool.Have you seen the belt buckles for carrying that pistol?I have a buddy that carries a two shot .38 Derringer.He may only have two shots but he has them ALL of the time. |
Methed
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 02:11 am: |
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I'm still somewhere between compact and cannon...
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Ccryder
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 08:49 am: |
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This is what I was thinking about to go along with my XD-M in .40S&W: Should be a GREAT performer! |
Rmcconnell33
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 04:00 pm: |
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I CC the Kel-tec PF9, Very thin and light, 7 round single stack clip. very comfortable for IWB 24/7 carry. And if 7 rounds isn't enough, i am most likely some where I shouldn't be.... LOL Plus with the integrated belt clip, CC is very easy.
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White79bu
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 04:06 pm: |
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I carry a mini mag in the summer. neat gun but way small. I actually forget it is in my pocket at times. |
Wilcom
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 04:17 pm: |
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I think the hands down self defense weapon for motorcycle carry is the Smith 38 hammerless "air weight". Its light weight alloy,packs 38 caliber power and with it being hammerless you can drag it outta your pocket in a heart beat. In fact, if its in your jacket pocket you don't have to drag it out , just start pulling the trigger. No slide to pull back and , no hammer to snag on something no safety to worry about. YOU GO FROM PROBLEM TO BOOM IN THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME....Just my $0.02 |
Ccryder
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 04:23 pm: |
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Just my $0.02 on the PF9. I sold mine because the trigger pull was waay too long for me and tore up my finger. Just me and my taste didn't jive with the PF9. I sold it to a friend that loves it and bought my Walther PPS. We are both much happier. It ain't one size fits all, make sure you try one on for size and feel b4 you plunk down the $'s. |
Ninefortheroad
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 08:26 pm: |
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I am in with a Kel-Tec but the P-11 model. I like either the P-11 and the PF-9 for the money. The P-11 holds 10+1 and is slightly heavier and larger. Mine is sightly modified with a trigger shoe soon to be added to help with the heavy trigger pull. Although, most do not recommend a hand load for self defense, I have had very good results with a 124g hard cast lead RN, normal charge, that "keyholes" nice at 7 to 10 yards |
Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 11:37 am: |
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Primary: Glock 27 (.40) Backup: Kel-Tec P-3AT (.380) Ammo: Federal Hydra-shoks You guys are right about not trusting a new weapon until you've got her broken in. I've never had a jam on the Glock and would be shocked if I did (even new out of the box), but the Kel-Tec needed about 300 rounds ran through it before I began to trust it. The first 50 rounds, it jammed at least once on every magazine no matter what kind of ammo I ran through it. I still don't really like the little Kel-Tec's trigger much, but like someone above mentioned, the best gun in the world won't do a bit of good hiding in your nightstand. If I'm headed out just to check the mail or something, I always ALWAYS have it in a pocket holster. Though I consider the Glock my primary, I sometimes leave it at home if I'm going to be right back. |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 12:12 pm: |
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A guy I know here in France with a dud leg, has a 4-10 powerhead in his walking stick. I always fancied a Lupara but you'd get a nice long holiday here if caught carrying one. |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 12:49 pm: |
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My favorite is the Beretta 950BS Jetfire in .25ACP
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Forerunner
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 02:52 pm: |
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I think I saw somebody mention 'handcannon' earlier. I guess you could conceal carry this if you were Samoan but I weigh a buck-sixty dripping wet: A reliable disposable gun isn't a bad idea in case you ever have to use it you won't fret over what happens to it in evidence: As always, YMMV, Nels |
Littlebuggles
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 05:21 pm: |
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I wouldn't call any of those guns above disposable. You can make a lot of peanut butter sandwiches for $500 or more for the Glock. I carry a Glock model 19 on and off duty, used to carry the 23 but like the 9mm performance (better for me, not every one, the 40 was great too) with several holsters for various dress options. I would like to get a baby Block with the plus one mag grip extender for better control, but don't have the $450 to spend right now. I like my shoulder rig a lot more than I used to, but on my bike prefer my Fieldsheer jacket since it's got a zippered pocket in the low back. IT places my gun very similar to where my small of the back holster puts it. Haven't found any other motorcycle clothing makers that offer that pocket on their jackets. |
Forerunner
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 05:37 pm: |
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I wouldn't call any of those guns above disposable. You can make a lot of peanut butter sandwiches for $500 or more for the Glock. Yes, but there isn't anything cheaper that I personally feel comfortable trusting my life with. I didn't say they were inexpensive, just disposable. These are merely tools and I think good ones at that. They can get holster wear or scratched up from being 'thrown' in the car and I don't care. They can be surrendered as evidence after self-defense use and I won't care about them getting pawed, mistreated or 'lost.' I would care if something happened to my 1911's, HK's or Sig's. Nels |
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