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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All day today Fox News has been covering a Muslim protest against the underpants bomber.

Great stuff to see! I hope to see more of this from American Muslims, good for them.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A day late and a dollar short. Somehow, I'm not as impressed when it takes 9 years.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good to see.
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Crackhead
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

this is just one of the few times their protest have made it on the news.
I know i have gotten stuck in traffic from their protest before in DC.
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Aptbldr
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Read today that mr.under-pants, like shoe-bomber, realized his radical violent nature while living in England.

Too bad common folks feel a need to use public demonstration to show they're okay in this nation.
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Too bad common folks feel a need to use public demonstration to show they're okay in this nation.

Forget this nation, look at the Arab states. Public political marches are a way of life! If this is how their culture communicates, then welcome it.

To me the protests signify a lack of fear of the extremists and a will to stand up against it.

In Gaza or the West Bank, a moderate will be killed for protesting terrorism. Here in the US it still takes guts for a Muslim to stand up agianst the radicals because they are nuts and don't mind killing anyone that they believe is against their cause.

If they are protesting, I'm guessing they are also going to stand up to these A-holes and/or turn them in. It also influences young Muslims to see public displays showing it's not OK or a holy act to kill innocents in the name of their religion.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

9 years? I don't think this is the first demonstration they've had. Just one of the few to make the news.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is this supposed to make me feel better?
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It makes me feel better.
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris,

What gives?
Why must your voice be the loudest one on the badweb?

Everywhere I look on the badweb has posts from you running your mouth about something.

You need a hobby my friend.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Until they are turning them in, and purging their own ranks of the terrorists, it is lip service. It is the equivelant of saying nothing about a child molester in your community.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Until it becomes "popular" to put down the nutcases IN THEIR OWN CULTURE, the war against the west by islamic jihadists will continue. So, yeah, feel a tiny bit better that such a protest is on tv at all.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would be more interested in seeing what is said INSIDE the mosques rather than seeing what is said in the streets.

That's shere the rubber meets the road.
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Milt
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Captain Underpants' father turned turned him in to the State Department.
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99savage
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Suspect these are the engineers & doctors who could not normally be bothered taking part in a demonstration BUT think the general public has about reached the tipping point & might begin acting independent of the Government.

Anybody in engineering or medicine has known more than a few Muslims & until 09/12/2001 thought nothing of it.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Is this supposed to make me feel better?"

No. It isn't about you. It is intended to demonstrate to the evil murdering al qaeda and their supporters that they and their murderous extremist islamist idiology are condemned and opposed by mainstream muslim America.
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Drkside79
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 to Blake
The belief that Muslim = Terrorist has gone on too long. I only personally know a handful of Muslims but every one of them has been a good person and at least one of them has served our country proudly for over a decade.

Good morning BTW
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You mean like you running your mouth, Chris ?

(Message edited by Ferris_von_bueller on January 14, 2010)
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris, Chris and Blake are right on this.

I love seeing everyone here stand up for his beliefs and back them up with words. A lot of times I see no "winner" in these debates, but other times, it's just good and honest to see someone admit they are wrong, or they went too far, and they man up to it.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Went to far?...what in hell are you talking about? How am I wrong? I said, " am I supposed to feel better about this?" That's a statement concerning a feeling - an emotion. There is no right or wrong about it. Furthermore, I never said Blake was wrong.

As far as Chris is concerned, he launched a personal attack. His comment had nothing to do with the substance of my comment or this thread, for that matter.

(Message edited by Ferris_von_bueller on January 14, 2010)
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Theironmaiden22
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good, maybe this can show narrow minded people that not ALL Muslims are terrorists or show the terrorists that their own people are rallying against them.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Muslims are rligion first country second, they will always choose religion over country. unlike americans that will take country first over religion.
you will notice the typ american could care less about anyones religions, but will be pissed with you if you put down this country in any way.
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know what you mean, but I'm not so sure that is universally true, 2001b (just as most blanket statements like that are too broad).
Living in this country changes a lot of people, muslims included. Ask one if he/she would like to go back to the home country. Some would... but some feel more american than you or me. This country is full of people for whom religion is an inseparable part of their being. Some just follow the words of Mohammed more than Jesus. Or Buddha, or the Hebrew prophets.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the mistake out government did was they did not react swift to the 9/11.
they should have dropped a nuke in Iraq, that would have sent a clear messege.
you kill one of us, we kill a million of you.
some of these savages only uderstand force.
you can't dialog with this savages!
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris --car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.


Take it for what it's worth. I neither full embrace nor fully deny the premise of the article.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris the red diaper doper babies have no interest in articles that do not criticize Christian or Jew males...even black ones sometimes.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thank God for no muslims in South America
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Wavex
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a lot of amalgams being made in this thread between muslims/islam, & jihadism/terrorism... and that's dangerous for everybody, which is probably one of the main reasons why Muslims protested... so Americans realize that being a Muslim has NOTHING to do with being a jihadist terrorist...

The first Muslim country in the World is Indonesia... do you often hear about Indonesian terrorists???
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

they should have dropped a nuke in Iraq To teach the guys responsable for 9/11 from Saudi Arabia and Afghanastan that if they f&ck with us, we'll blow up A neighboring country?
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you kill one of us, we kill a million of you. They (Iraq) didn't kill one of us. A terrorist orginazation did, not A country. That's like saying that green peace sunk A british whaling ship so Britain is going to drop A bomb on us.
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