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Jasonnennig
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you Name That Motor...



You will be awarded extra points for a detailed answer...
Have Fun
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Endoman33
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Honda's moto GP rsv212 ?
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Jasonnennig
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NO NO NO... Good try
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ducati Desmosedici RR engine : )

The Engine
With a power output of 200 HP* at 13,800 rpm and a torque of 11.8 kgm* at 10,500 rpm, the new D16RR engine follows the guidelines laid down by the Ducati Corse GP engine, a masterpiece of engineering and precision.

Bore and stroke measurements are the same as those on the D16GP6: 1000 cc (86x42.56), as are the characteristic positions of the Ducati desmodromic timing system parts (camshaft rotation axis, rocker arm centre and valve centre distance), valve angle, distance between cylinder centers and pulse timing, which uses the Twin-pulse solution applied on the racing engine.

As in MotoGP, traditional Ducati desmodromic timing ensures accurate valve control even at the highest revs and blends perfectly with the modern architecture of this superb 4-cylinder engine. As is the tradition at Ducati, the 90° angle between the cylinders is maintained.

This authentic copy of the GP engine is further endorsed by the use of a cassette type six-speed gearbox and hydraulically actuated dry multi-plate slipper clutch.

The aim of producing a light but reliable engine has led not only to a component design of unrivalled quality, but also to the use of exclusive, individually-made racing-derived materials.

The crankcase and cylinder heads are sand-cast aluminum while the cam-drive cover and alternator casing are made of sand-cast magnesium, technologies that match the lightness of these alloys with the greater mechanical strength expected from structural components. The oil sump, cam covers and clutch cover are made by pressure die-casting magnesium alloy, a technology that allows significant thickness reduction on non-structural components.

A look inside the engine shows how the quest for high performance has led to the utilization of racing technologies such as titanium con rods, intake and exhaust valves - again in titanium alloy with CrN (chromium nitride) coating - and precision grinding finishing to reduce friction on certain components such as rocker arms. Even the camshafts have been drilled and cut to reduce weight.

Lightened through finite-element simulation (FEM), the timing gears are arranged according to a pattern highly similar to the one used in the GP engine. The piston has the classic high-performance engine architecture, with double ribbed undercrown and a compact combustion chamber that brings the compression ratio to 13.5.

The crankshaft rotates on brass bearing shells and has the crank pins offset by 70° to generate soft pulse timing (pulses at 0° - 90° - 290° - 380°). This component is produced via complete precision machining of a single piece of forged steel. The cone-shaped end of the crank-webs maximizes the use of the available space below the piston bosses and optimizes crankshaft assembly balance.

The sand-cast aluminum crankcases feature integral cylinder bores with Nicasil lining, and the crankcase halves’ separation layout is the same as on the GP engine. The oil pump is of the trochoidal (Gerotor) type and controls the water pump according to a cascade arrangement.

Also featured are four 50mm Magneti Marelli throttle bodies with 12-hole "microjet" above-throttle injectors. A Magneti Marelli 5SM ECU control unit and high-speed CAN line electronics have been employed to manage the injection and electronic ignition of the powerful four-cylinder engine. The throttle bodies, while serving two opposing cylinder heads, lie on the same plane, resulting in a straight, plunging intake port configuration.

(*) Data obtained with exhaust open.

From http://www.webbikeworld.com/ducati-motorcycles/des mosedici/rr/
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Guell
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

damn, i didnt think of the desmosedici, i knew it was a duc engine.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn it Lemon...... i was going to say that!!

Exactly what it is!
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Dentguy
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Jasonnennig
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Awesome Job Lemonchili...
You get major points for being detailed.
What gave it away??? Are you a Ducati fan?
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He probably cheated like i did!!
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought Duc as soon as I saw it was a 90 degree engine... but I was beat to it.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jimmy
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know, I just seem to be good at remembering shapes. I was actually thinking Aprilia Shiver twin at first, but water pump is in the wrong spot, then realised it was a four.

Next challenge?
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Dentguy
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For me the L-twin (4 actually), magnesium covers and the sump made me think Desmosedici. I also saw one on the work bench at the DucPond about 6 weeks ago.

(Message edited by dentguy on January 12, 2010)
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Jasonnennig
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What fun...
Someone else should post some really bazaar motorcycle motor or part, and it would be fun to see how many minutes it takes the good people of BadWeb to figure it out...
I think the harder the better.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't post pics to BadWeb or access photobucket at work. Can someone post a pic for me?
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I must be missing something. I'm far from a motorcycle expert and even I knew it was a Ducati motor
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think most people new it was a Duc motor, key was, which one!!
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana, that a VR1000
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That was your pic Chili?

ok, ok, i must confess.. With the help of technology, i cheated again.. LOL

I knew the first one was a Duc at first, but didn't know which one.

The second one i had an idea it was a VR but wasn't sure..

I'm not going to tell how i found out so quick to save the thread, and for that i'm pulling out of future pics..

I will have fun watching though!!
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had to do the cut-away b/c the cases are stamped.

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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

husaberg engine.

Now guess my motor. We are talking motors aren't we??
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Jasonnennig
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana...sorry but what motorcycle was that pulled out of???
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dayton

explosion proof & spark proof.

(Message edited by speedfreaks101 on January 12, 2010)
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its a motor just like the thread title states. Or are you after engines??? Motors = electric. Engine = fuel.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That was your pic Chili?
Nope, Bads1 posted the VR. I've sent something a bit older to Jason to post for me though : )
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Jasonnennig
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not an "enginecycle" it's known as a "MOTORcycle"...That's the way I see it anyway. hahahaaaaaaaa
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