Jason, In almost every group of political discussion occur, when a disagreement of B.O.'s decisions happen, someone pulls the race card. Why does color have to always come up? If we disagree with Obama, we're labeled as racists. It's disgusting and it's wrong. What gives you the idea that color has *ANYTHING* to do with it? Can we not disagree with his retarded decisions without being labeled racists?
We live in a world that's still filled with criticism and racism, that's why the race card gets pulled up so often. If I had a dollar for everytime my fiance (who's Arabic) and me got funny looks cause we were holding hands, I could buy back Buell. It's just sick, we're living in the 21st century, not the 20th or 19th. Segregation was dumped 45 years ago. Just accept the fact that whites aren't Alphas anymore. Unless someone is going to go all Manson and start a race war, there's jack shit anyone can do about it.
Look, if Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagon, Clinton, BushI, BushII, McCain or even Palin had his policies, I would be up in their KoolAde as well.
Get over it. Keep bringing it back to race negates anything the man does as his own voalition. Go read some old dead white guys from Europe (Marx, Hegel, Engles, Lennin, Stalin) Stink is stink, regardless of the carrier. I am not about to excuse the smell of it because of the package it is delivered in, it is pure anti capitalistic dunderheaded horseshiate.
Do I believe that a Black Man can effectively run a country? Absolutely. Do I believe that O'bama can ruin this country? Absolutely. 50 years from now, this will be our Rome falling and Nero fiddling. Enjoy the show.
Steve, Race is a HUGE factor in why many people slam Obama. All I seem to hear is that Black guy this, that Black guy that. Many right him off out of hand with out giving him a chance because they can not relate to his background. I think that's a shame. I know you are not a racist but many out there are. Even if they will not openly admit it. I don't have a problem playing the race card if there is some truth to it in my experience... As far as Fatty, if he says race is not a factor, well then I'll take him at his word for it...
I think they call that Narcissism, could be wrong. I look at another human as I do a bug. Sure, there may be some differences in species of bugs, but all I see when I see a German Cockroach or an American Cockroach is "Oh, another cockaroach." When I see a human, whether they be of a different skin color or nationality as "Oh, another mammal."
I'm one of those who looks at death as a bug on a windshield, life is life, try to treat everyone as you would want to be treated and life will reward you, might not be in this lifetime but you might pop up as royalty in your next.
"All I seem to hear is that Black guy this, that Black guy that."
Jason, Where do you hear that? You seem to have a very difficult time with rational thinking. You were the first to bring up Black. Obama is also half caucasian. It would seem to me that it is racist to call him Black and disregard the other half of his heritage.
My dislike for the Obama has nothing to do with his heritage. It is his dishonesty and willingness to sell out our country for perceived political gain that I find offensive.
All I seem to hear is that Black guy this, that Black guy that.
Not here. What you did is called projection.
I think you need to critically evaluate statements made by those here on face value rather than read into them your own perceptions.
I WANT a black person to succeed. It makes it easier for other black people to succeed. I don't for a second believe that racial bias doesn't exist. I do believe that success is the best remedy for that bias. 20 years ago, NO ONE would have accepted a successful black golfer. The next Tiger Woods will have a much easier time not having to break through the stereotype.
I WANT there to be a successful black President. I don't think EITHER SIDE believes that President is Obama.
Color notwithstanding, his policies are an abject failure as measured by his plummeting approval among conservatives, independents, AND liberals.
There will be a significant swing in November, and, unless he changes his ways and works in a bypartisan with the newly realigned House and Senate, he will be out in 2012.
My boss tends to think Obama has something to do with the whole 2012 shananigan. Thinks he's hell bent on bringing this world to it's knees, something to do with him not being re-elected in 2012, so he'll bring the rest down with him. I think the sun is going to have a flare in the solar flare activity thus altering our magnetic field thus resulting in horrible plate tectonic problems. Or so Einstein thought.
Race is a HUGE factor in why many people slam Obama. All I seem to hear is that Black guy this, that Black guy that. Many right him off out of hand with out giving him a chance because they can not relate to his background.
I agree with the posters above- you need to hang out with a better class of people. Twice I've found myself around people making negative comments about Obama's race, and have not spent time with those people again. That is twice in two years, after probably discussing him with hundreds of people.
All the people I work with tend to have a negative mentality towards Barack simply because he's half black. I don't know if it is because I grew up in the basic part of town and the people I work with all grew up around country clubs, but Lincoln, or Nebraska as a whole, tends to dislike Barack. They don't call us a Red state just because the Huskers color is Red, 3/4 of the state is Rep.
I live in a very conservative little town in rural Ohio, and if you started making racial comments here... people would look at you with the same "you are an idiot, and I am going to politely end this conversation and get the hell away from you" blank stare they would have given you if you told them their daughter was totally hot, or told them you wanted to get them in on this great deal on this multi level marketing plan.
I do see ignorance, and some of that ignorance is racism. But to be honest, I see as much or more racism from blacks directed at whites then I ever have as a white being directed at blacks. At least from 1980 and on...
I've had people hate me because I am a Christian, because I am white, because I rode a Buell, because I wasn't in the union, because I didn't like organized sports, because I liked science, because I had acne, because didn't want to take some chemical, you name it. I suppose if I was black, or a Muslim, somebody would have hated me for that as well.
Ignorance and intolerance is stupid, whatever the reason. But lets not confuse the normal low level "the stupid will always be with you" with a great big racism conspiracy theory. Everyone has somebody who hates them for some reason, and there will always be a general "noise floor" of the ignorant. Don't make more of it then it really is, and convince yourself that others have power over you.
Claiming that America is a racist country is sounding pretty thin. If we were, Obama would not have won the election. You could actually make a much more credible argument that we are still a sexist country...
I remember, before the election, the racists going off on Obama.
Obama either wasn't "black enough", or not "down with the struggle", or "half white", or some such crap. A bunch of racist A-- h----. And that's just Democrats.
There must be at least a couple of dozen racists who vote Republican too, I've even met one. I gave him crap.
It only is an issue with those who see Barry O'Bama ( that nice Irish guy ) and see black first, man second, President third. They are sad people.
So forgive me my ignorance, but he's not doing the address on "Lost" night? He's going to torque off the "American Idol" fans?
Obama either wasn't "black enough", or not "down with the struggle", or "half white", or some such crap. A bunch of racist A-- h----. And that's just Democrats.
Most don't remember this:
I guess "talking down to black people" is Jesse Jackson's job.
...Steele is obviously right that there’s a double standard when it comes to such racial gaffes. A Republican says something stupidly offensive or offensively stupid about race and he must be destroyed, even if he apologizes like Henry in the snows of Canossa. But when a Democrat blunders the same way, the liberal establishment goes into overdrive explaining why it’s no big deal.
But by demanding Reid’s resignation, Steele is making an idiotic, nasty, and entirely cynical game bipartisan. Yes, there’s a double standard, but the point is that the standard used against conservatives is unfair, not that that unfair standard should be used against Democrats as well. ...
So, let's get over ourselves on the race issue.
I'd be way more unhappy about the president, any president, messing with the premier of Caprica.
I can't believe that Jesse Jackson is so dumb that he'd open his mouth even to whisper something like that in a TV studio.
But it just goes to illustrate the title of this thread, TV rules, the politicians seem to be just their lackeys who'll get stuffed & mounted if they don't toe the line.
Just to be clear. I do not think Jason is racist. I humbly apologize. I should have used the sarcasm emotocon.
I do think he has adopted a very evil propaganda view, where those who disagree with someone who is not "white" will be called racist to discredit them, with no consideration of truth, facts, or honor.
Calling someone who disagree's with, say, Jesse Jackson racist cheapens the evil of those who actually are. By the way, I DO disagree with the "Reverend" Jackson, as I don't want to cut off the President's balls.
It's like the use of the tern Nazi for someone you disagree with. You diminish the evil that that state represents. The mass murder of Gays, Gypsies, etc. The use of slave labor. The desire to conquer the world and kill all who oppose it. Most important, the State Worship that twisted a nation into a weapon of war against it's neighbors, killed freedom, and imposed a socialist "utopia" that ended as all State Worship ideologies end, in the mass murder of it's own subjects, the terror of late night police raids, the betrayal of children informing on their own parents.
That is not to say one should not point out when so called "well meaning" socialist types try to impose the same evil upon our lands as was imposed by the Communists of the Soviet, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Chinese, etc. etc. Or the National Socialists & Fascists of Spain, Germany, Italy, etc. etc.
By all means feel free to point out these things.... just don't be the a--hole who calls Bush, or Obama, a Nazi. ( noting that socialized medicine was the death nell of the Weimar Republic that led directly to the Third Reich is not calling someone a Nazi. )
