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2008xb12scg
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was wondering if anybody has used it? It's A little steap at 220.00 but if it works maybe worth it. Any thoughts?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PM me, i got a "demo" ; ) version with 27 languages, but no Klingon : (
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Oddball
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No Klingon!?!?!?! Some Rosetta stone.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

its ok, the version you get is not the one that the Army gets, so dont let the commercials fool you. It is more interactive than flash cards, and does a good job of engaging both the video, audio and spoken portions of the language. Downsides.
There is no printing option, for languages that are graphic heavy (chinese, japanese, korean, arabic) I have no idea how it works, but it certainly will not teach you cyrillic.
Additionally, it will teach you protocol language, meaning, you will sound very bookish. Fine if you are a tourist, deathly if you are trying to blend and not stick out as an American. It is one of the better investments out there for language. Get one of the electronic dictionaries too.

Next, get yourself a native tutor.
What language were you targeting ?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One nice thing I liked when I played with it, it uses the computers microphone and can teach you to correctly speak it. I didn't play with it much, so I don't know how good that feature was.
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Fast1075
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I am not halucinating, I believe the "Klingon" spoken in the Star Trek movies is actually based on Navaho.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If star trek used Navajo for a Klingon base, an interesting movie to watch would be Wind Talkers. About Navajo code talkers from WWII. I dont know either enough to distinguish if they are the same
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody got pics of the Rosetta Stone lady??
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Hotrats
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

as above, it's a good, intuitive program. yeah, a little pricey. good features for the money though.
also, it seems the language i tried, Vietnamese, is more of the northern dialect.
my wife is from South Vietnam. so......
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

give c-list a look they can be had used at 40-50 bucks.
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Aldaytona
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm thinking that if Rosetta Stone was so good, why doesn't the government spend some of the billions that they are wasting on Rosetta Stone for all the Illegal Aliens and let them learn English.
We shouldn't have to push 1 for English!
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I called my bank the other day, it had a prompt that said "Press or say one for English", so for the hell of it, I said "Uno", and it gave me English.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your regular teacher, Sister Rosetta Stone, is out today. I am your substitute teacher, Sister Mary Elephant.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Next, get yourself a native tutor.
What language were you targeting
I have A native tutor, my wife. Language Spanish. I'm just not A very good student...So I thought I'd try this out. Funny thing is that my wife and her family are origanally from Peru so even all the "spanish slang" I know is Mexican slang.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm thinking that if Rosetta Stone was so good, why doesn't the government spend some of the billions that they are wasting on Rosetta Stone for all the Illegal Aliens and let them learn English
Huh?
And why does A learning Another language question have to go there? I didn't ask about imigration policy or illigal aliens..
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ah if you have a wife that speaks it , you are in like flynn. positive reinforcement. All of my tutors were Russian girls. the BEST way to learn the language... kisses for correct answers, and a nibble or bite on the ear for wrong answers.
I know it helped with my test scores !

PS the Army only really teaches hearing / reading translation. The do not teach you to read, write, translate, speak, compose sentences or communicate.

Infact they get down right snippy when you try and jump the translation cycle on your own. They teach a rapid fire, key word recognition,... really a cliffs note about what the conversation was.

Imagine their surprise when I knocked over a table and went bad cop on someone for saying my bucket doesnt work
The literal translation.
The actual translation is a colloquial epithet meaning You dont have the sense in your head (your bucket will not fill water from the well)

Got their attention, they went white when I gave them the appropriate response
(you are as worthless as an old hag that tries to shiate herself in the corner of a round room)
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Moxnix
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In Germany, as a wee lad, my instructor asked if I was doing language exercises outside the classroom. I replied in German, that I had a "sleeping dictionary," and she turned red.

Languages for the future are: English, Spanish and Mandarin, the language of officialdom in China. Many other native tongues may just disappear.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slicker, I might intentionally fail that Russian test : D
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You missed the Arabic conflagauration. Farsi, Dari, Pashtun....
The only way those languages disappear is that you kill every last one on them.


And Russian has been around over a thousand years, You will find it stays longer than english.
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Moxnix
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Important languages for the future of mainstream global commerce? Just the three I mentioned.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I applaud you for finding a way to rid ourselves of the current arab situation, and to get their oil too.

And to wit, english isnt even OUR official language.

www.hotforwords.com If you need some russian tutoring virtually.
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Moxnix
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Russia is old newspapers for economic investment, what with the new oligarchs and old mafias not putting a dime into improving or updating the outdated Stalinist infrastructure. And foreign business people don't want to be kidnapped or squeezed.

Once the oil is gone in the Middle East, their economies will be old newspapers, too.

China and India are building infrastructure, as is South America. Domestic markets in those areas will grow their economies while our depression drags on. One rule of thumb on doing business overseas is, if there is a black market currency exchange, buy souvenirs with your money and forget investing.
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Milt
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Farsi is not related to Arabic, at least not closely. To the best of my knowledge, nobody outside of Iran speaks it. Nor is Pashtun, for that matter.

However, there may be good jobs for people who speak those languages: Somebody needs to be able to translate all the intel we gather from those areas.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Capitalism in Moscow is on par with New York or Las Vegas, in under twenty years.
And financing in Russia is unheard of, its hard currency up front, or no product. I would place more solid footing on their economic growth than anything coming out of DC beltway for the last 20 years, or forseeable 10. Russia could kill the diamond cartel in an afternoon if they had the inkling to.

If you are going to pizz into the wind, do it down stream from me.
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Moxnix
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's review the Russian economy in 20 years.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cheers, beers on me. I will be in Odessa or Kiev, come look me up. First round is on me.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's A little steap at 220.00

No fair! The German Rosetta Stone I want is well over $400.

I just can't bring myself to spend that much. (even though I spent more than that on a couple German classes at the community college. and have since forgotten 90% of it)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Milt, Yep, that is exactly why I got out of the military. Somebody up the chain of command was convinced that if you were a linguist, you should be able to just pick up the language of current need. Which indeed was Farsi, Dari, Pashtun...

My brain aint wired like that. I exercised my higher tenure and left with a credit for 20. I know several other linguists that did the same thing.

it is very difficult to hop language families like that, it can be done, but youre sporting a bigger brain than I gotz.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

City, how many languages do you speak? Just curious. It seems very common for people from other countries to speak several languages. Here most speak one and maybe know a little from a second. Well hopefully I can learn some more Spanish. It would be nice when I have my wifes relatives from Peru, or when I travel that way. Thanks.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

English and Russian, but with Russian I can get by in any of the FIS/previous USSR countries. Which if you look at the map, is quite a few.

its really a big issue with public ed. Foreign language isnt taught until Jr High in most schools, by then you are already slow to learn and disgruntled with the tedium. It aint fun. and it aint effective.
Get em when they are a sponge. I started teaching my nephew Russian when he was five; He is already over 1000 words, and doing conversations based on those concepts. Hes 8 now. He thinks its fun, and it drives his mom simply bonkers when we talk in code. ; )

By comparison, most english speakers are lucky if they use 1800-2000 words in their daily lives. Its they way our country is isolated geographically. Its not like an afternoon drive will get you to french, italian, german, ....
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Slipknot
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look into the Visual Link Spanish program. Similar to Rosetta Stone, covers the basics really well and has a pocket size phrase book that is actually good to carry. Lots of upgrades if you want to progress and not as expensive as other programs.
For books, get Madrigal's Magic Key to Spanish. Incredible book. If you have a native speaker to annoy this is the only book you will ever need and you can forget the CD/DVD programs. Start with this book. You will not be disappointed.
For dictionary get the Collins Complete and Unabridged which has lots of slang.
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Spatten1
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your regular teacher, Sister Rosetta Stone, is out today. I am your substitute teacher, Sister Mary Elephant.

And our guest today will be Sgt. Stedenko.
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