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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Very noticeably lacking in this topic


Rocket
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Taylors seem to have consistancy issues of late.
My son has one, never plays it anymore.
He really liked it to start but after about a month he started seeing warts...
Subtle intonation issues, etc...
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Stang37
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a Taylor Big Baby starting out and moved to a Martin 000X1...bottom line Martin, but sounded tons better than the Taylor and great if you just decide to strum from time to time. Holds tune for ages too. Top end Taylors sound wonderful though.
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Bcordb3
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

good friend of mine is a classical guitarist and plays Rameriz a fine guitar, one he picked my very old Crown, a very inexpensive guitar I had bought in the 60's. He restrung and loved it. I guess my point is it is not the tool but the mechanic. BTW I am going guitar center tomorrow to look at a Seagull. I Haven't bought an axe in long time, last one was an Ovation that kept on my boat.
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Milt
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Almost any modern guitar made by a reputable maker can be made play in tune. The fix may be as simple as changing to a different brand of strings, or modifying the nut or bridge slightly.

Whatever axe you end up getting, make it yours by playing it all the time. Get lost in it, like you do on a great ride.
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Bcordb3
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whatever axe you end up getting, make it yours.

Well said. +1
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Bill0351
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a Washburn D10S, and for casual playing, I don't think you need anything more. I spent some time getting the action the way I like it, and once I dialed it in, it has been great. It stays in tune, sounds clear and bright, and its action is nice, fast and low.

My mother has an older version of my guitar in tobacco burst, and it's a beautiful instrument. My older daughter has one too. All three have been great guitars.

I'm sure there are others that would work for you, but I have nothing but good things to say about our Washburns.

I think new they hit right at your price point too. I see them used on Craig's List for $150-200 fairly often.

Bill
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Went into Guitar Center today just to browse. Lots of nice stuff in there. I picked up a few from Ibanez to Seagull to some i have never heard of

I'm going to W&B sometime soon and do some more looking.

Btw, whats with the acoustic guitars with the plastic contoured back? Is there a reason for that?
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the round plastic back is for tone. at least that is what they claim. it is also supposed to be more comfortable to play standing up. personally i have never been fond of them.

i have a Alvarez and love it. it wasn't very expensive either. i think i only gave $235 for it.
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Ustorque
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The theory in acoustic guitars is that the less bracing used inside a guitar the better. With less bracing internally there are less obstructions for the sound waves to bounce off of, creating a more full tone and better resonance. when you create a composite plastic shell you now require no bracing at all. Personally I have never liked ovation guitars, they just feel awkward.

You will notice if you look at any high line acoustic next too a cheaper guitar the bracing is always very different.

I started with Alvarez acoustics as a kid and they were all great guitars, I would highly recommend them, as a good place to start.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rounded backs are on Ovation Guitars. Charles Kaman (the guy who started ovation) had a degree in aeronautical engineering and had developed composite blades for helicopters. He was also a guitar player and took his knowledge of composites and came up with the guitar design. Like Jimduncan69 said, the reason for the bowl-shaped back was he thought it would improve the tone. Ovation eventually developed models with composite tops as well (not sure if they make them any longer). IIRC they were the first acoustics to offer factory installed electronics which was a big selling point back in the 1970's/80's.

Interestingly, another company, Rainsong, makes guitars that have a conventional shape but are all carbon fiber construction. A wee bit out of your price range though.
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Ustorque
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just as a suggestion one of my favorite acoustic electrics that I own was also one of my least expensive and falls right into your price range. The Epiphone PR-5E. Slim neck, slim body, and great sound acoustic or plugged in.



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Edstevens
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a Rainsong WS 1000 carbon fibre acoustic/electric. Holds tune forever. Sustain longer than any other acoustic I have ever heard. Extremely light weight. I have small hands and it's neck shape is perfect for me. Came with Fishman electronics. Fantastic sound when capo-ed. I have played this guitar for 15 years and I am still amazed every time I play it. It has NO internal bracing and NO trussrod - it doesn't need them. Visit the website to see all their different models.
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Wbrisett
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I started playing guitar again after not playing for a number of years. My old Takamine just wasn't sounding all that great, so I went into the local guitar shop and played dozens of instruments. It came down to two, the Seagull Maritime SWS and the Guild DV4. I ended up with the DV4 only because I thought it sounded just a tinge better. But it was nearly a toss-up. Which leads me to say, play as many of them as you can! Sound is very subjective and you'll need to know what sounds best to your ears, not what sounds best to "experts".

Wayne
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Gunut75
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use an old Seagull (15 yrs. old) solid top. Mine was manufactured when Seagull was having problems with the wood they were using. I guess I have gotten lucky. Mine hasn't warped yet, and it has played over 50 bars through winters and summers. It's starting to get that well used look. The new Seagull guitars dont have the problems the old ones did. No matter what kind of guitar you buy, spend the extra $ and get a solid top. The sound is much fuller than a laminated top. Mine is a solid top, and over the years the tone has opened up so well, I can use a set of 9 ga. electric strings and still get great tone out of it.
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Kowpow225
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Recording King and Blueridge are worth noting as well for value.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got a guy at work that plays Bass in a band and says he has a nice Washburn he never plays and will sell it to me for like $100. Says he paid like $400 for it 5 years ago.
Not sure of the model but he is going to bring it in to work and let me check it out!
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I could be wrong, but I thought the round back of the Ovations also helped with reducing feedback when plugged in?

I've played a couple of Washburn basses and they were nice pieces of gear.
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Strato9r
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, that was part of the design strategy behind that round back Ovation setup. I know a lot of people are not really into the sound of an Ovation, but they really do sound great when they are competing with other instruments onstage, and were a Godsend to sound techs trying to get an acoustic guitar to work onstage when P.A. systems were getting more and more powerful. I'm installing a Fishman Matrix Infinity (the best sounding acoustic pickup I've ever worked with,IMHO) this afternoon on an Ovation, and I cant wait to hear it.

That Washburn sounds like a great deal for a hundred bucks! You may find a few buzzes on the neck around the fourteenth fret, as a bit of a hump where the neck/body joint is will be pretty common on those, and the string height at the nut may be a little high, but nothing a decent tech wont be able to take care of easily. The shop I do work for sold hundreds of those Washburns in that price range a few years back, and they were really sweet guitars, with excellent intonation.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, have you seen the Washburn bass yet?

While we're talking about stage setup/pickups etc... I love the natural sound of my Alvarez, but through a PA it sounds a bit too "electric", very dry sounding.

The preamp has level, treble/mid/bass, adjustable mid centre freq, adjustable notch filter, phase switch, and also a level for the piezo pickup. Anyone got any tips on settings?
It's the first acoustic I've used on stage so I'm kinda guessing my way at the moment.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did I say bass? I meant guitar. No I haven't seen it yet. He has been out o work sick this week. Hopefully soon!
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lemonchili- try some different strings. I have a Kramer Ferrington acoustic bass and I've had good results with a couple of different sets. Thomastik-Infeld makes a set specifically for acoustic basses that work very well on some basses. They have a nylon core with brass windings. They're VERY different from electric bass strings, they have very low tension and they sort of "roll" under your fingers when you pluck them. They do make some acoustics sound great though. You do have to be careful installing the strings on the tuners though; you have to wrap them over the peg (like on a classical guitar) or they will slip.

I liked their acoustic strings OK, but I had even better results with a set of Thomastik-Infeld flatwounds. I've had these on the bass for ~5 years now and they still sound great. It sounds almost like an upright bass. I mainly use this bass for practicing around the house but I have played live with it on a couple of occasions. The flatwounds are easy on your fingers (if you don't practice often enough like me).
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, i picked one up today at Woodwind & Brasswind.

All the reviews where very good and in most cases it was "the best guitar i owned!"

So, here it is. Ibanez AEG20E.

These where taken off Google because i left it there overnight to get set up and new strings on it...




* Pearl dot inlay
* Flamed sycamore top
* Maple back/sides
* Die-cast gold tuners
* Fishman Sonicore pickup SST preamp w/ onboard tuner
* Balanced 1/4" and XLR outputs

Can't wait to start playing it!

BTW, it was $299

(Message edited by americanmadexb on January 15, 2010)

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Iman501
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thats a pretty lookin guitar!!! i have just a cheap samic, but it sounds good to me, it stays in tune forever!, i got it on sale at a local music shop pretty cheap, like $110 after tax!
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4cammer
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice looking guitar.
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my friend had his for sale on craigs list.

http://toledo.craigslist.org/msg/1547829401.html

im sure he can text u a pic if you want. i have played it, its a nice guitar.
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Bill0351
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Congratulations!

That's a beautiful looking guitar.

Bill
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 04:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What i found interesting is it has a PA plug in the bottom also.. Not sure how that works, but i'm curious...
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Excellent! Very nice looking piece of kit!

I think the PA plug will be so you can run a mic (XLR-XLR) cable straight into the PA, which should be quieter than using a guitar (1/4") cable. (Someone correct me if I've got that wrong)

Hughlysses - I meant normal 6-string acoustic, though you may be right, I will try some different strings before doing anything radical : )
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damnit. The tech somehow got overloaded and now i have to wait till Monday morning to pick it up..
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Buellish
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I played an Ovation Electric Custom Balladeer
for 20 years and believe me,they can feedback with the best of them.It was a constant battle.
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Buellish
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is what I'm playing these days.



Washburn EA26 Craig Chaquico Signiture Model.
Top of the line Fishman electrics with built in anti feedback circuitry,Spruce top,Nato Mahogany back and sides and Rosewood fingerboard.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damnit. The tech somehow got overloaded and now i have to wait till Monday morning to pick it up..
Doh!
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