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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I really hope this child raping piece of shit rots in jail and takes all of his piece of shit supporters with him. The fact that the candy ass French in conjunction with Hollywood have sheltered this man is an absolute atrocity. The longer he stays free the more pissed I get.

Sincerely,

Everyone's favorite Illinois Dem.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=449 069&GT1=28101
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Whatever
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah he is a scumbag... but 90% of these scumbags never get prosecuted... I am past being angry about it at this point tho...
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Whatever
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's up with France? Looks like the Swiss gave him "house arrest"...
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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The French harbored him and refused extradition for years. At least the Swiss arrested him.
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Milt
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not just France.

He has appeared at film festivals all over the world.
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Whatever
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They should send him to America so his nuts can be cut off... but it will probably never happen... look at MJ and OJ... well at least OJ got away with it for a while...
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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well OJ was guilty as shit, as for MJ who knows he may be guilty but he might have just been strange and after awhile an easy target for money grubbers.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok so this guy gets an underage girl drunk and then buggers her OVER HER OBJECTIONS because she's not using protection... and he should be forgiven because he has Hollywood friends?

If you are curious about this predator, read the transcripts of his trial: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover 1.html

Seems that throughout history, there are TOO MANY EXAMPLES of those who can forgive evil in others (or simply look the other way) when it suits their purpose.

Evil exists in our world in many names, in many forms... one of which is named Roman Polansky
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

from Smoking Gun:

The girl testified that she left the Jacuzzi and entered a bedroom in Nicholson's home, where Polanski sat down beside her and kissed the teen, despite her demands that he "keep away." According to Gailey, Polanski then performed a sex act on her and later "started to have intercourse with me." At one point, according to Gailey's testimony, Polanski asked the 13-year-old if she was "on the pill," and "When did you last have your period?" Polanski then asked her, Gailey recalled, "Would you want me to go in through your back?" before he "put his (deleted) in my (deleted)." Asked why she did not more forcefully resist Polanski, the teenager told Deputy D.A. Roger Gunson, "Because I was afraid of him."




He sounds like a sweet, talented guy

(Message edited by slaughter on December 28, 2009)
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm neither for or against, by all accounts that I've read she was consenting though underage; & even now says the matter should be dropped.

What's your opinion on Jerry Lee Lewis?
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ditto Jerry Lee Lewis.
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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Grumpy i hope your kidding, giving a 13 year old girl drugs and then having anal sex with her is rape. Not sure how you or anyone else can argue that.

I have a 13 year old girl at home. If someone did that to her I would be the one on trial.


Hopefully there would be 12 parents on that jury.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's the other way around. He stayed in France because there is no extradition treaty, He made the mistake of going to Switzerland where there is, he gets busted.

Whatever you think of Jerry, he didn't run and hide. He married her.

And his fans voted with their feet and wallets, so he had to cancel his tour. Ask every sales or rental place to remove all Polanski's works or you will take your business elsewhere.

There are names for people who believe 13 year old girls under the influence can give legal consent: pretty sure writing them would get me off this forum.

Anyway, I have no conversation with people who want to affirm that belief.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whoopi said on tv it "wasn't rape, rape"

She's wrong.

Polanski pled guilty then split the country before sentencing, so there is zero doubt of guilt or culpability. He not only gave a 13 year old girl champagne, he gave her drugs.

Today, give a 13 year old booze and a roofie & have sex with them despite their protests..... same exact thing. Rape.

I don't care if he made a good movie, he's slime. Hollywood's defense of him is without merit, and shows how "out of the mainstream" they are. ( I mean they are screwed up )
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Pammy
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And her Mother let her leave with him.....

I would have visited him with the bolt cutters and THEN called the authorities.
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J2blue
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Around the age of puberty both girls and boys may be capable of taking adult responsibility for most of their actions, including sex. However, most people recognize that at such a young age complete culpability is a gray area at best. That is why the law referenced for what Polanski did is called "Statutory Rape". The law, so written, eliminates any gray area about the younger person's culpability in such acts.

As for Jerry Lee, I think what he did has to be understood within the context of a different time and place. Outside of that context most people were appalled, but the culture from which he came didn't frown on it the same way. I doubt the statutory rape laws were written at that time to apply to marital relations. Certainly, they did not prohibit such a young person from being married.
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't even F**king care if the girl was 13 or 30. She was drugged, given alcohol, had sex against her wishes (again, read the court transcript).

That there is even a question of a moral "rightness" or "wrongness" in some people's minds is beyond me.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 06:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read the transcript awhile back....
I would have no problem beating him with a ball bat.
Take him to the hospital and get him fixed up and do it again... repeat... for the rest of his life.
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The transcript of a 13 year old girl, who somewhat more tellingly in her 30's, suggests all is not quite as clear cut as it seems.

Topless teen posing for established movie maker, at Jack Nicholson's house. Drink drugs jacuzzi. And what I didn't read was the part where Polanski asked to see her proof of age??? A pair of tits and a hairy beaver might well have had him not bother asking. Unless of course she came around in her school uniform with homework under her arm.

As for Polanski's guilty plea. At the time that might have been his best option, rather than an admittance of any guilt.

What I would like to know for a fact is that Polanski knew she was under age and that her protests of NO meant NO. In the UK she might have had a hard time under those circumstances - as much points to suggest she were up for it. And if her age was never asked or questionable, it would not be considered statutory rape. But you know what, to stick it in both holes doesn't sound like a lot of protesting to me. Not from a 13 year old virgin with stars in her eyes anyway.

So is he guilty of statutory rape, or did he just get laid by an underage girl. And did he know she was under age? Without those key elements established who's to know. His wife's gorgeous though - and much younger than him. Wonder what she thinks.

Rocket
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And did he know she was under age?

Yeah, he knew how old she was.... it was the SECOND time he "photographed" her.

Just because he wasn't driving a van with "Free Candy" painted on the side doen't make it any less f##ked up.
Plan and simple he was/is a predator... there is no grey area at all....
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there are a lot of sick people all over the world. whether they are pedophile priests, mormons, muslims, asians, etc, etc. the only thing you can do, is try and be a better parent so it doesn't happen to your children. be responsible. apparently, her parents weren't.


i am with drside with his comment about being on trial if something like that happened to my daughter when she was 13.
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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I cant believe that anyone especially here can justify this. OK lets just ignore the drugs for a min. This is a 13 year old girl so that would make her a 7th or 8th grader. can any man on this board honestly say they could mistake a 7th grader for legal?

THERE IS NO GREY AREA HERE HE RAPED A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL AND THEN FLED SENTENCING WHEN HE REALIZED HE MAY GET MORE THAN A SLAP ON THE WRIST.

The man belongs in prison. Perhaps his roomie will be kind enough to slip him some drugs before engaging in "consensual sex between adults"
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We come down to the nub of the matter, custom & culture.

Many cultures over the planet & over the years have found no problem with any of this. The natural rule has been, "If it's old enough to bleed..."

Today however in civilised countries this is not generally the case. The age of sexual consent varies widely across the world.

For your culture this goes against custom, for others it doesn't. It's not for me to say who's way is right or wrong.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While you are correct, Grumpy, we do have international agreements concerning extradition. He should be returned to the U.S., post - haste.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know of any culture that its ok to drug a person.... adult or child... and then BUTT F##CK THEM!!
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You need to get out more Wolfie baby

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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"You need to get out more Wolfie baby"

Not sure i understand why Wolf not enjoying drug induced rape means he needs to get out more.}
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeez you're a hard crowd today, lighten up some.

You ever hear the expression "It takes all sorts to make a world"?

Well yes, there are people who like to be drugged & have their ringpieces stuffed, I'm not one of them but I know they're out there.

I'm sure Wolf is quite comfortable with himself & is quite capable of speaking for himself too.
And I'm pretty hopeful he can take a joke.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder if Grumpy would change is mind after being drugged himself and violated with a plunger handle. After all some find this perfectly acceptable.

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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One thing I'm surprised nobody has brought up is Polanski's previous misfortune- his 8-1/2 month pregnant wife Sharon Tate was hacked to bits by Charlie Manson's followers several years before the incident with the 13 year old.

Not an excuse for anything he did afterward, but damn, you have to feel for the guy a little.
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