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Theironmaiden22
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This would probably be best asked to a doctor but knowing people on here have crashed before then they might know what's going on.

About 4-5 months ago at the AppleJack Festival in Nebraska City, I was slowly rolling down a gravel road when my front end washed out and the bikes tail frame landed on my right leg, it hairline fractured my ankle and damaged the shit out of my leg muscles. But even now, 5 months after it's happened, my leg muscles are still rock hard and swollen where the bike layed on it like they're bruised, and it itches horribly. Anyone have this happen to them? How long will it be before my leg returns to it's normal state?
Thanks!! Phil.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that rock hard condition may not be your muscles but an inflammation and a residual fluid from your immune system working overtime on the stress to the area

*Not a physician so check with someone that is.

On to gravel.... rules that work for street dont work for gravel, Many people will lean into a corner or curve on dirt, gravel when they should be cross leaning out of the curve as in dirt biking.
Tires are also a factor. I found running Avon Distenzias would 'cut in' or 'chop out' on pea gravel under acceleration in the 48-54 mph area (the zone I find most fun) I will never put them on the bike again. Get better soon, see ya on the bike for next season hopefully
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X5thxgearxfreak
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been on my bike, hell I rode it home after the crash, scraped the shit out of the headers, broke a signal, scraped a mirror, mostly minor stuff except for the headers. I may just wrap the headers in some DEI Titanium wrap to hide the battle scars. I wasn't leaning or anything, what it was was I hit the front brake, the biggest no-no for street bikes on gravel, especially when you've got a ZTL2.
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Theironmaiden22
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That exactly what I did too, I'm waiting from some cheap headers to pop up, no way I'm covering up damage. But pus*y me got it towed back to the house, being as I couldn't walk.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh yeah, if you are grabbing any lever it should be the clutch and up shift , roll off the throttle and cross cut at a diagnoal in a straight line, I get a new set of rear brake pads every time I change tires for a reason.

practically everything you do for a streetbike is opposite for dirt bikin
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Theironmaiden22
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My headers didn't just get scraped, it actually dented the pipe from the forward head. Completely broke off the mirror, and being as I didn't have signals there were none to break. What sucked was I was stuck under the bike until someone popped their head of out their ass and realized I needed help. Hey, got me a weeks worth of vacation, always have to like that : D
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Theironmaiden22
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

X5, what is it with Europeans and 'Homeopathic' hospitals? Does that crap even work?
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X5thxgearxfreak
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Homeopathic hospitals specialize in homeopathic medication, That's common sense. What it is is taking the absolute tinniest bit of medicine, like 1 part per million versus normal meds which have higher concentrations of the medicine. Basically, its a placebo thing, people believe that 1ppm will work just as good if it were in higher concentrations.

Billy Joels daughter tried killing herself by taking a handful of homeopathic painkillers which are less effective than baby aspirin. All a call for attention is what that was.
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Theironmaiden22
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you joking? Suicide by homeopathic medicine? That's like killing yourself by eating a ton of vitamins, she really thought people will feel sorry for her? I feel sorry for her for being so stupid. But thanks, now I know what homeopathic stuff is, placebo junk.
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Jumpinjewels
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dropped my bike on my R ankle and I think the foot peg is what hit the ankle. Never did go to a doc (don't trust them being in the medical field : )). It hurt like crazy. It took a solid year for there to be no more pain in the ankle.

Sometimes it can take a very long time to heal completely. There may also be an area of hardness due to scar tissue.

I also had an injury with a dirt bike, handle bar jammed into my right outer thigh. That was about 9 years ago and still have a divot in my leg. Pushed the muscle right out of place!!!!!
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll pee on your parade for you.
1978, I was in an explosion. Then while I was supposed to be taking it easy to heal up I just had to play basketball, Ripped a muscle casing back open and now have a hernia in my forearm. I didn't know I did it because I had no feeling in that arm and the arm had what looked like a pillow wrapped around it. It will never heal up. Find a doctor with good social skills to talk to. You may just need physical therapy.
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Birdy
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep don't push things. I broke my foot a few months ago, very slight break at that. BUT the doctor have me on crutches and in a soft splint for two months. She was talking about me going under the "Knife" but I decided no, not happening. So what it I can't run a 4-40 in :12...I never could.

Even after all that four months later it still will let me know I hurt it.
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Jlnance
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Theironmaiden22 - It takes a long time for feet to heal. I stepped on the top of my g/f's foot during a u-turn that went bad. It didn't break her foot, but it still took 6 months to get right again. The Dr. said that was about normal.

Do see a dr if you haven't. Some PT may help it heal.

(Message edited by jlnance on December 20, 2009)
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You really OUGHT to talk to a doc about physical therapy... and NOT just going to a gym - but working with a professional - a legit physical therapist.

Physical therapy might only be part of it but a physical therapist will work with your orthopedic doc on the proper rehab. They will get a program established to regain as much function as possible WITHOUT further damage.

IF your insurance doesn't cover it, you might have to consider FORCING the issue or at least starting the process by paying out of pocket. MANY insurance plans (HMO) require the insured to do battle to get proper treatment. You should be willing to put some money up front toward your treatment (I know it's easy for me to say but I've known a few folks now who had injuries and didn't follow through with PT - and regretted it when muscles and mobility got LOTS WORSE over time)

I've had to deal with ankles, shoulder, wrist(s) - and PT was REQUIRED after the initial treatment to both regain range of motion AND strength... and in the case of the ankle, it was more than a year before it didn't bug me.

(Message edited by slaughter on December 20, 2009)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PT and patience.

I had my wreck 18 mos ago. Granted, I did much worse than you...but lower legs take a LONG time to heal because of gravity. Blood doesn't flow as well out of your lower leg.

If it hurts or you are having range of motion problems, wrap it with an ace, especially if you're going to be 'pushing' it (i.e. working it hard). Elevate it whenever you can - a recliner or sofa with a pillow under the leg helps the circulation. Circulation gets fresh blood to the wound, and "bad" blood can carry away contaminants better if it doesn't have to go uphill. Your itching could be mild nerve damage. I lost a lot of nerves in my accident, and as they came back 'online' they itched like mad for a while.

Rule of thumb when I was going thru PT - if it aches like a long workout at the gym...it's generally OK. Sharp pain? Stop whatever it is IMMEDIATELY.

Again, to echo the above posts - see your doc. Get a prescription for a PT and at least get a consult, and maybe some exercises to try out. If you're babying it even a little, your muscles will lose strength and range and the exercises will help alleviate that.
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Joebuell
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+ eleventy billion for professional physical therapy. that is without a doubt the quickest way to recovery and best way to avoid perm damage. ESPECIALLY with complex joints like a shoulder / knee / ankle.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do believe/have experience that homeopathics can help- for instance, if I feel that I'm coming down with a flu bug, I start taking "Oscillococcinum"- weird name, costs about $12-15 bucks, but it minimizes the misery. (Won't kill the bug, just shuts it into a closet instead of letting it run rampant thru the mansion.)

As to your injury- had a girlfriend once who was a dancer, she swore by Arnica lotion- Arnica is an herb, meant to treat muscle sprains and overworked muscles. I used some once and it did seem to help.

Even if it's just placebo effect, mebbe just having your sweetie rub you down with Arnica will help- just don't spend too much $$$ on treatment unless it IS with a PT specialist.

My $.02, YMMV...
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I first began riding I had a wreck that had my entire calf pinched between the wheel and swingarm of a dirt bike. My calf became solid as a rock and stayed that way for months. After nearly a year it slowly went away...healing from inside out...much like a huge internal scab.

I was told it was likely a massive blood clot that could have easily killed me, caused a stroke, or a loss of limb.

None of the soft tissue injuries I've had since have hardened like that.

Last year a low speed crash caused a torn rotator cuff, bicep, and pectoral muscles. I could easily see the swollen and torn strands through my skin. It was two months before I could raise my hand over my head and eight months before the pain subsided. I still have reduced strength. The main reason for the injury (aside from the obvious) was a glove that had hard rubber armor. This caused it to stick like glue with some friction and tweaked my arm in a most unpleasant way. I was thankful to have a lot of 'extra' muscle.

A couple months ago a highside at the track was the most violent accident I've experienced. Apparently I landed just right every time I bounced off the pavement as I didn't significantly hurt anything...just a sore hand and ankle that still bother me sometimes in the cold.

I guess my point is that having the right gear is crucial, seeing a medical professional is generally the best bet...unless you are too simply too stubborn, too broke, or just too proud.
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Theironmaiden22
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you guys so much for your input, my cousins going to school for sports medicine so I'll shoot him a call and see if he can't do anything about this, my primary physician referred me to 'the best' orthopedist, he does all the orthopedic stuff for the Huskers. He said I could have surgery but the healing time and all didn't sound too appealing, so I'll just go to PT for the muscles. Again, Thanks much for everyones two cents.
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