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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, apparently we are going to include 'illegal' immigrants in the new healthcare plan,... whatever that may be....
because now they all get amnesty and they are no longer illegal....
Somebody is playing with scemantics loose and fast, and they reside or hail from Illinois
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Honestly, did anyone think otherwise?
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah,and the pillars of the country are exempt...that's the part that really sucks.Good enuf for us,but not good enuf for them. The pricks that vote yes for this should be thrown out...OUT OF THE COUNTRY!
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the only way your going to send a strong message is if you vote them all out of office starting next year. regardless of party. start with a new batch who realize maybe that america if fed up with the old status quo.

and if anyone on here wants to run for office, i'll do my part what ever that may be to help them obtain that which they seek.

(Message edited by nevrenuf on December 17, 2009)
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Xb12xmike
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Red is the new green.
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Wbrisett
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody got news sources for the "amnesty"? Haven't seen that one myself.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny it aint on CNN or at the DNC party linkings either
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580464,00.html

but remember Fox is entertainment, it is really the only way I could stand to watch it.

and yes, I collected a fifty dollar bet from it. back in August I bet a friend that Obama admin would just reclassify what is 'illegal' Yo se habla espagnol
(not unless its on a menu)
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One line of thinking is that the criminal trespassers ( CT ) ( Illegal aliens is not PC, so I use the correct & even less PC term ) will NOT get amnesty until the socialized medicine bill passes. If the CT's are counted the budget office math comes out much higher, and the costs must be hidden to get the bill passed.

So this could be an uncoordinated effort that will not please the current very Executive branch.

Or the pundit I heard today is dead wrong, ( on the amnesty being on hold 'till after the socialized medicine bill ) and this is a full court press of every possible thing to reward the major contributers, ( Unions, lawyers, business's that have paid their protection money, like "big pharma" ) before the 2010 election cycle kicks in hard next month.

They really do know from experience that the public's memory is short, and the media is on their side.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Theres a little loop hole for em... I have my tribal card, this shiate goes through I am moving to the res and the US regs can kiss my @ss.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One line of thinking is that the criminal trespassers ( CT ) ( Illegal aliens is not PC, so I use the correct & even less PC term ) will NOT get amnesty until the socialized medicine bill passes.

I believe the new PC term for that group of people is 'Undocumented Democrats'.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It makes perfect political sense. If the dems pander to the illegal aliens, they'll all vote for them if they actually are able to give them amnesty. How many million votes is that?
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Geforce
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Indy...don't you have to be a citizen to vote?

I'm in the same boat on this one, but I think maybe your logic is astray unless you mean the next step would be to grant voting rights to non citizens, and that would mean issuing a voter registration card without a social...

Although it wouldn't surprise me if many illegal immigrants have somehow voted before anyways.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Indy...don't you have to be a citizen to vote?

I'm in the same boat on this one, but I think maybe your logic is astray unless you mean the next step would be to grant voting rights to non citizens, and that would mean issuing a voter registration card without a social...

Although it wouldn't surprise me if many illegal immigrants have somehow voted before anyways.

They do have to be citizens and will be after they are given amnesty.

Illegal aliens can already get a SS card. Oddly enough there is nothing illegal about that. They can also get home mortgages.
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Geforce
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jebus...I need to keep up with this. Thanks Sifo.

Does anyone else get pissed off when it feels like the "standard" only applies to you?

IE: What's the point anymore?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That hissing sound you are hearing from the end of the life raft is what it means to be an American, patriotism, nationalism, was the only thing keeping this thing afloat.

As soon as the house sells, I am gone.
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