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Barker
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kain Saul Backflips an XR1200 Harley Davidson

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kohenez es grande
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool video. That doesn't look like their "Core" crowd though... lol

(Message edited by Paint_shaker on December 03, 2009)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

flip'n fag
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Bartimus
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL Wolf!
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Joebuell
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i like how he just rolled slowly to the ramp then powered up it. I must admit, if I wasn't still cross about 10-15-2009, I'd like it more...
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Grancuda
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys need to get over yourself about HD dumping Buell, they didn't sell much and times are tough, enough said!
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Malott442
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

4th edit. Welcome to a Buell forum.

Man I don't want to get into it

(Message edited by malott442 on December 04, 2009)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Grancuda, Love the silver S1
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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would have been neat to see him do that on a different dirtbike first (or second) just to see how the styles contrast.
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Svh
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like that bike. Big knobbies and MX forks. Could have some fun with that
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Grancuda,

Care to post any facts and figures to support your post?
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys need to get over yourself about HD dumping Buell, they didn't sell much and times are tough, enough said!

Well if H-D didn't have 32 models not including CVOs AND a dealer network that didn't think it was still the mid 90's waiting list days then maybe they would sell more...

and don't even get me started on the parts dept or should I say Farkle dept?

(yes I know not all dealers apply here but the majority unfortunately out weighs the minority...)
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh yeah almost forgot...

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Malott442
Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd jump the sporty into a lake.... betcha all that extra weight makes for a huge splash..... WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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Gater
Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That bike is bad @$$. If only Buell would make something like this with a mono shock! That would be awesome. Watch someone convert a ULY to a dirt bike.
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Skntpig
Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

^^^^^What!
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Paw
Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"You guys need to get over yourself about HD dumping Buell, they didn't sell much and times are tough, enough said!"

The last few years since the 1125. Buell has sold more bikes and made bigger profits each year something H-D could not do during this tough economical time...Do some research before you open your pie hole.
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Chellem
Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The last few years since the 1125. Buell has sold more bikes and made bigger profits each year something H-D could not do during this tough economical time...Do some research before you open your pie hole.

Assuming that's true, although I'm not sure where you're getting YOUR financial data, was it enough profits to cover the R&D expense on the bike?

Buell generated REVENUE, that's true, but whether it generated PROFIT is not something we lowly non-managerial types have access to. So lets take it a little easy, hunh? You opened your "pie hole" without all the info too...
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like pie...
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Elvis
Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We don't know the actual profit numbers because Harley doesn't publish them and if they did, we wouldn't know how much profit or loss would be attributable to accounting and poor management by Harley.

What is certain is that Buell has been growing much more strongly than Harley over the past few years:



Considering that chart, if Harley wasn't making a profit from Buell, I would have to say it was because they mis-managed the asset. It wasn't because Buell was not growing. Expecting growth greater than Buell actually showed would have been very foolish.

. . . but regardless of any of that Harley has no excuse not to sell the Buell rights so someone can continue to make an American Sport-bike.

Erik Buell will be making motorcycles - one way or another - so Harley can either profit from his efforts and make the transition as easy as possible . . . or they can be jerks, jealously guard assets that are worthless to them and eventually end up with the same result: Erik Buell making Sport-bikes.

(Message edited by elvis on December 05, 2009)
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That graph is misleading, looking at the numbers Buell and victory combined don't equal half the revenue of HD at any point on that graph.
I know the point of it is to show growth rather than revenue but the way it is laid out doesn't show a true picture.

However, the comparison of Buell and Victory is quite interesting.

(Message edited by not_purple_s2 on December 06, 2009)
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Regardless, anyone who owns or has owned one of these machines knows how badly H-D bungled the Buell brand, you can't sell something you don't market correctly or support fully.
You can count on one hand the number of dealerships that properly carried and promoted the product.
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like hole.


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