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Endoman33
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If Harley-Davidson's stock keeps going up th non riding general public who purchase stocks may think that HD executives where right about closing Buell.
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Odie
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's still lower than when I purchased in '93.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stocks are smoke and mirrors.... investor confidence plays a large part in the market. It's all about the "feelings".
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder what would happen to the share price if it could be proven that the closing of buell was part of a vendeta..
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Gregtonn
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Very few in the non-riding general public have any idea what is going on with Buell.
In fact most of them have no idea what a Buell is.

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Teddagreek
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For all they have done the Stock has pretty much stayed the same...
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

they are probably looking at sales numbers BUELL SALES NUMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Endoman33
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We'll more to the point, If each member reaches out to their local news organization ie (NBC,ABC and CBS) and ask them to investigate why Harley-Davidson who has bleeding finical loses won't sale Buell Motorcycle Company to investors who are willing to buy the Buell company. If the news organization asks why, let them know that Harley-Davidson is willing to sell MV Agusta an Italian motorcycle company that Harley-Davidson bought around 15 months ago and have had no offers. Harley-Davidson won't sell the Buell company that people want to buy, but are willing to sell a company no one is willing to buy.
Please remember to be polite,direct and to the point.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stocks are smoke and mirrors.... investor confidence plays a large part in the market. It's all about the "feelings".

right now I don't have a very good feeling about Harley-Davidson! With their current leadership, I think they just might be in some real trouble!
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>I think they just might be in some real trouble!

Do some research . . .

Study the bios of the top executives.

Study the bios of the Board of Directors.

Read their assessment of how they seriously misjudged the motorcycle market . .. the very one they are in.

Read the number of different "plans" they've offered up in the last 18 months.

Read about Harley-Davidson having to borrow $600,000,000 at an interest rate higher than my credit card to finance motorcycles.

Read about HDFS financing motorcycles.

Read how they lost $110,000,000 and fired some folks.

Look to see if there has been any REAL change . . .

Note that the changes there HAVE been involve bringing in a couple folks who have, at 59, never ridden a motorcycle until the last 4 months.

Read about trading mangoes for concessions to reduce/abate the 60 tariff to bring Harley's into India.

Ask why someone building a factory needs to worry about tariffs . . and what the hell are they going to do with those mangoes.

Read about their optimism and excitement with Buells success . . . . the announcement of the new world class consolidated Buell headquarters.

Read, only one financial reporting period lately, how Buell is worthless and they are taking a $150,000,000 hit to simply trash the company.

Read about this fictitious "core group" they are going back to focus on . . . .

Toe the tracks . . . (google it) and listen to some of the nervous stirrings as 2,200 folks wonder if they are in the next wave to be "released".

Go sort through your inbox and answer all the e-mails from your friends who used to work at Harley and are wanting references (that's Harley-Davidson, not Buell).

How much would you like to invest . . . ?
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Endoman33
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"How much would you like to invest...?
$0.00

HD stock investment $0.00
My 08 Buell 1125R $11,700.00 Feb 2008
Saving Buell Motorcycle company $ priceless
just borrowing from Master Card Co ad.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I googled up a secret spy shot of the new H-D corporate headquarters and manufacturing facility. This represents the ultimate resolution of their back to basics refocus.



Image found at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/ar chive/01401/Harley_shed_620_1401162c.jpg

I couldn't find much when I googled "toe the tracks" 8-1
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>This represents the ultimate resolution of their back to basics refocus.

Uh . . it should.

Ask some of your buddies at HD the story of what happened to that building.
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

let me take a shot Court - they tore it down and used the wood to build a trailer to pull their bike on.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ask some of your buddies at HD the story of what happened to that building

If I recall.... they had it stored away for safe keeping.... and then someone doing some spring cleaning tossed it out.... LOL
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ding-ding-ding . . we have a winner.

Tossed that baby right in the trash . . . they seem to be developing a habit of doing that with valuable things they neither understand nor appreciate.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and where was willie g when they tossed in the trash??
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