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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, a psychiatrist

terrorist sympathizer?

(Message edited by Ferris_von_bueller on November 05, 2009)
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

an army officer , a Muslim .....

sad day
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Hex
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There may have been more than one shooter...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06forthood.ht ml?hp
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup, still waiting to hear from my brother who is stationed in Ft. Hood. He has been out in the field training for 3 weeks so i don't think he would have been at that location...

Still, me and Jack Daniels are having conversations right now. I'm a little on edge!
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Waiting to hear more info on this.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a very sad day. thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families. you never know when something like can happen.
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Edgydrifter
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was born on base there, so the news of these killings--by an officer and medical professional--is very distressing to me.
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Jimidan
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The shooter was obviously mentally deranged. Twenty five percent of the troops returning from the wars suffer from PTSD...he was treating many of these.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you go off the deep end like that, I don't care what religion or nationality you are. Please don't start with the Muslim shit.
Christians have done MORE than their share of mass killings and crazy shit.
I chalk it up to a mentally over the edge nut.
Who will be the first to blame Obama?
Then who will chime in with blaming Bush?
Thoughts and prayers should be with the soldiers and their families.
I hope and pray that anyone with family/friends there get the news that they are safe.
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Cobra
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am supposed to be starting my general medicine rotation at Darnall Army Medical Center on Fort Hood this coming Monday. Pretty crazy. I was out riding my bike all around this area today.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is being reported that he was in fact a Muslim and that he has made statements about it being OK for Muslims to "rise up" against the US being in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm more than willing to wait for the facts to shake out, but if that's the facts I don't want to just brush them aside.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

again, you can't condemn an entire race of people by the act of one.
last I checked, we, as Americans, have a little to be ashamed of. Remember the Native Americans our ancestors tried wiping off the face of the Earth?
I, in NO WAY, condone what this nut did, but I'm sure it's more involved than that. Where did you hear the above. FOX News? Did you ever think maybe they DON'T want us there?
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Chadhargis
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's not forget to keep the victims and their families in our prayers.

Ft. Hood is one of my companies project sites. All of our people are safe, but when I spoke with my contact down there, he said they were literally hiding under desks and staying away from windows. His exact words were, "Man, this sucks worse than government health care". LOL! At least he has his sense of humor. : )
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it's the truth does it matter where I heard it? As I said I'm more than willing to wait for the fact to shake out, but that is being reported. If it's the truth why do you feel that it should be buried? I just don't get it? Who was blaming an entire religion? I didn't see that from anyone.

The irony I see is that you don't want to paint a group for the actions of a single person (Which I haven't seen done here) then you go on to say " Did you ever think maybe they DON'T want us there?". Is it the action of an individual or all members of his group that we aren't allowed to mention?
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,
If You were so concerned with the Families and victims, then why did YOU bring up all of the other "Shit" Yourself?
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FOX it was then, huh? If it's the truth it shouldn't be buried.

"an army officer , a Muslim ....."
What's the point of putting Muslim in there?
If he was your average joe white guy, would it have been put "an army officer, a Christian, or Protestant, or Baptist...?
I'd have to say no.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

couch, because I beat you to it. Only a matter of time before it goes in that direction, so I thought I'd steal your thunder.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, why do you refuse to look at the whole picture. It isn't just that he's a Muslim. It that he's a Muslim that also has spoken about Muslims rising up against the US. You are aware of certain Muslim terrorists acting against the US in recent history, aren't you? Stop being so disingenuous.
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are We not at War in at least Three Muslim filled Countries at the Moment? Or haven't You heard that News?

Was not a Muslim Imam killed in Detroit (this Country) after a Shootout with Law Enforcement?

How does that Koolaid taste there Rocket?
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

had been watching the news since i got home from work RS .... then on the major networks NOT fox "an army officer , a Muslim "

you're the one going off the deep end .

i probably should have put it in quotes but don't play the race card on me .

you're way off base .
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It just dawned on me! If gets accepted that this is a terrorist attack by a Muslim then I goes down in history as the first failure to protect US soil from Muslim terrorist in 8 years. BO will have that to add to his list of "accomplishments".

Naturally there will be a huge effort to protect BO from having this be part of his history.
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I made no mention of the Religious Zealot that You have so righteously defended against Your own Countrymen who were slaughtered while defending the Constitution of the United States of America.

According to You, We are not wanted. I would take that to mean by YOUR OWN WORDS that We are not wanted on our own posts in Our own land even.

What has America done to You that You hate it so much? Canada is not that far away and there You would be safe from slavery, Muslim persecution,and Small Pox infected blankets.
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sifo,

Oh no You din't.

Barry has done all that He can to disprove the misconception of the violent Muslim.

Well, except for the father that ran down and killed His daughter, or the TV EXECUTIVE for the "ALL MUSLIM ALL THE TIME TV Station in Rochester, NY that displaced His Wife's head when She filed for Divorce. Or the previously mentioned Imam in Detroit.

(Message edited by roadcouch98 on November 05, 2009)
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do any of the middle eastern countries have any John Browns or Joe Smiths in their military???

no MUSLIM should be allowed to serve in the U.S. military...wouldn't fighting against people of their own religion be a conflict of interest? This guy freaked out when they told him he was heading to the middle east and you see what happened.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It may be looking bad for Rocket's world view...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame rica/usa/6511591/Fort-Hood-shooting-Nidal-Malik-Ha san-said-Muslims-should-rise-up.html

Of course all all the fault of Fox News.
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sifo,

Not if You like the Koolaid.
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,

You don't have a Leg to Stand on Do You?
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no MUSLIM should be allowed to serve in the U.S. military...wouldn't fighting against people of their own religion be a conflict of interest? This guy freaked out when they told him he was heading to the middle east and you see what happened.

The sad thing is that this individual was known to be saying very extreme things 6 months ago. Apparently nothing was done. I mean no disrespect to the victims of this, but this really needs to be a political shit storm. BO can't make a decision on what to do in A'stan. He is suffering from stereotypical decision paralysis. He just doesn't have the experience to make a decision until all the facts are in. The problem is that you never have ALL the facts. You MUST make a decision as best you can, and you will have to live with the consequences. BO... It's 3 AM and the phone is ringing...
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Roadcouch98
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

C'mon Rocket.........don't run away again.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sifo,

Not if You like the Koolaid.


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