| Author | Message | ||
     Teddagreek |
New Brutales and now a new F4.. Am I the only one this pisses off...  Last I checked MV didn't turn around in year since it's sale to HD. I get that HD is trying to sell MV by pouring in cash...  Buell too integrated to sell.. http://www.sportrider.com/news/146_0911_mv_agusta_ set_to_unveil_2010_f4_superbike_at_milan_show/inde x.html | ||
| Lastcyclone |
You ain't the only one. Has HD had any purchase offers for MV, yet? I'm guessing they may loose even more on that deal, than they do on Buell. | ||
| Oldog |
While its no been said outright, some comments indicate that corperate politics are involved with the Buell closing, also consider that HD could be sold off too. I have been in a similar shut down division situation, it was done to enhance the co for sale, new bikes from MV may make it more apealing to a prospective buyer too. I'm no wiz kid but I wonder if the poo is deeper than the straw is long? | ||
| Jramsey |
>> poo is deeper than the straw is long. You sure you don't raise cow's? | ||
| Chadhargis |
Nothing really adds up to me. Something is going on, and no one is talking. I've always heard the only way for two people to keep a secret is for one of them to be dead, but evidently this is not the case at HD because everyone seems to be keeping their mouth shut. | ||
| Oldog |
You sure you don't raise cow's? No but I slung my share of Bull.. | ||
| Hex |
Chad, maybe you should consider the possibility that nobody at HD knows anything.  | ||
| Garyl |
Why don't all the badwebbers pony up and buy MV? In recent weeks you've all had numerous fund-raising efforts. This would be the grand-daddy of them all! Just think, once you all purchase MV, then you can hire Erik Buell as the head of the design team and have him build MV's that look and ride an awful lot like a recently defunct brand  Come on, get your paypal's fired up and put your money where your mouth is! You want your Buells back, here's your chance. Go get em folks. | ||
| Anonymous |
Hell,Garyl, Erik would have to redesign the whole MV line so there would be some reliability, let alone some profit. Ask Cory West, who tested the MV's and the Buells how he would compare an 1125RR with an MV F4 if you want to thin out your Italian vino a bit. | ||
| Eor |
I think HDI is a prime take over target and see Warren Buffet as a player. | ||
| Greest_lightnin |
Hex...+1... Anony...Yer writin' out yer a**...You ever ridden an MV? | ||
| Greest_lightnin |
Come to think of it, isn't using Erik's name and reliability in the same sentence somewhat of an oxymoron? | ||
| Oldog |
no where near as bad as "parts are available" from italy and "its August" Some where I read that the entire country takes a month off in august or the like, so imagine needing a 20$ part ( there are no 2$ parts on italian bikes ) and having to wait 6 weeks to get it made and then wait some more to get it shipped to usa My "unrelable" buell will have been fixed and rolling long before then. Come to think of it I can do it my self if it does break, In nearly 8 years my bike has never left me stranded...... | ||
| Rocketman |
MV is able to launch new bikes because the money is already spent and the bikes already done. With a few quid in the bank MV are able to make production too. MV have one other asset under their belt. They only bring great bikes to market. Now whilst there are a few who might find it satisfying to say MV's are unreliable, even if such were true, which they are no more or no less than any other manufacturer, no one can claim to build a better handling bike. Then MV go one step further and give their sublime world respected handling bikes the power to be at the top of the performance game. And do they stop there? No. They wrap handling and performance in fabulous style with a very high percentage of quality components. Hard to knock MV really. Rocket | ||
| Bads1 |
Can't sell a dead horse in a manner of speaking. Buell isn't for sale. | ||
| Dentguy |
"no where near as bad as "parts are available" from italy and "its August" Some where I read that the entire country takes a month off in august or the like, so imagine needing a 20$ part ( there are no 2$ parts on italian bikes ) and having to wait 6 weeks to get it made and then wait some more to get it shipped to usa" My understanding is that the factory shuts down for August, but there is a skeleton crew to get out parts etc. But I don't live or work there. It's just what I hear. By the way, I know of another factory that was to shut down for TWO months until Harley pulled the plug. Is that much different? | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
so MV is for sale buell is not. You know I remember this guy that back in the 80s that bought another motorcycle company form Europe and brought it to America. Oh what do you know That guy is probably looking for a new gig. Maybe it could work like the above is talking about. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
by the way does any one know what the price tag on MV is? I really think this could be an awesome venture. Especially if we could switch the manufacturing from Italy to say east troy were there are 200 people that know how to build bikes we like and if we could get Erik on board to design and build them the way he sees fit. we could even change the name to something like Pegasus motors or something. (the hamster is running wild in my head) | ||
| Reepicheep |
"Buell" and "Reliability" isn't an oxymoron at all. Anybody else old enough to remember when "Made In Japan" was synonymous with "junk"? And rightly so. Then they got serious about fixing it. Buell is the same thing... they took a sportster motor, doubled its HP (which is a huge credit to the original sporster motor designers, and the Buell and Harley people advancing the design). It, predictably, discovered a lot of corner cases. But ask anyone who did their own 100 HP sportster hop up before Buell came along, and the tubers had reliability and runnability those guys could only dream of. But the next gen (and remember, I owned an M2 and an XB9SX) was nothing short of remarkable. 30k on my 9sx now, and it is more reliable then any of the Yamaha's or Kawasaki's I have owned. The 1125 started even better then the tubers, and another year or two would have had it exceptionally well sorted as well  | ||
| Tpoppa |
The MV 675cc F3 is due for release next year. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Greest, Anony didn't say he rode an MV, he said Cory West rode the MV and the 1125rr. He said if you want to know how the two compare, ask Cory. I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as you obviously are should be able to get a hold of him by lunch time and let us all know what he thinks of the two bikes, that is if you even know who Cory West is.  | ||
| Court |
>>>Ask Cory West, who tested the MV's and the Buells how he would compare an 1125RR with an MV F4 I can help. Cory said the F4 was a "pig" or a "piece of shit" or words to that effect. It's a great LOOKING bike that is a real marginal race track performer. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
even more reason to buy them out and have the best motorcycle designer we know and think very highly of to redesign them and put a maybe 1125cc rotax engine in them and maybe put some trilogy of tech into them. come on I know some one has to know the price tag. Also some of you old guys must have some money stashed away to put in to this idea. Also this could give any of us bad web members jobs possibly. | ||
| Rocketman |
Cory said the F4 was a "pig" or a "piece of shit" or words to that effect. Yeah, and Hugh Hefner's gay............ You don't have to ride an F4 to know the truth. Ask yourself who designed it and why. And as I've said before on BadWeB, if ever the opportunity arises to ride an F4 grab it with both hands. Probably the greatest handling production bike ever made. Rocket | ||
| Ducxl |
Cory said the F4 was a "pig" or a "piece of shit" or words to that effect.   Massimo Tamburini does NOT design a "pig" OR "POS" bike.......PERIOD Makes me angry too to think they're still in the biz but Buell isn't.Makes me wish DEATH and DESTRUCTION to HDI | ||
| Midknyte |
rub some salt into that wound when you realize that the new models are probably resulting from HD infusion money when bought last year... (but that's not like BMC didn't benefit likewise when HD ownership went over 50%) | ||
| Garyl |
"come on I know some one has to know the price tag. Also some of you old guys must have some money stashed away to put in to this idea." Ok, I'll start the ball rolling for you guys. Put me down for $25.00 I fully expect that the badweb purchase of MV will be in contract within 30 days, assuming you all walk the walk and not just talk the talk. | ||
| Rainman |
I didn't know Hefner was gay! | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Why was that post anonymous ????????????? I saw nothing in it worthy of anonymity | ||
| Spatten1 |
The MV is the best looking bike I've ever seen, with infinite beautiful details. Reliability? I don't know. Some dick on at Pocono an MV 750 that kept holding me up in the infield and pulling me on the straights puked coolant all over the track. Don't know what happened, I was just glad to have him go away when his bike broke. Nice looking bike though. |
