| Author | Message | ||
     Cyclonedon |
Focus...stay on topic please! BadWeb is a Buell motorcycle forum that seems to always want to talk about race, religion, and politics! wouldn't it be great if we could just get back to talking about motorcycles again? | ||
| Slaughter |
Youre all ugly and your mother dresses you all funny. You secretly long to be wearing buttless chaps among leather-wearing manly men. I have to go before I get all hot and bothered | ||
| M2me |
Well, the bad news is that I've got more than one word to post this evening!  I think only two members have played the race card: m2me and buellinmke. We know where they are coming from. That's ridiculous. I never played the race card. I called Court a "bullshitter" and a "salesman". Those are not racist terms. In my 6+ years of posting on web forums I have never read such a disrespectful, hateful and rage filled post like Blake directed at me yesterday. I have never and would never disrespect someone on BadWeb or on any other forum with a post like that. Yet I am the one who is accused of "disrespectful behavior". I disagree with some people, and even consider some bullshitters, but I certainly do not despise anyone who posts on BadWeb. No one makes my stomach turn. I can enjoy reading posts even from the bullshitters. This is just a web based forum. That's all it is. Don't take anything I post too seriously. Posting here is not the most serious thing I do in life. I read other people's posts with that same idea in mind. Why would I despise anyone, no matter how much I disagree with what they post? That's just crazy! | ||
| M2me |
You secretly long to be wearing buttless chaps among leather-wearing manly men. I'm wearing buttless chaps right now! Where are the manly men?  | ||
| Froggy |
Yea sorry, I forgot the "  " at the end. I have been accused of being a racist too for not voting for the savior. | ||
| Froggy |
Also back on the thread topic. I currently work for a college, things are going great for me. Enrollment is through the roof due to everything else in the world, we got a new building about to be finished in time for spring semester, and I will be busy getting that up and running. I don't plan on leaving, I think I am good for a while here. | ||
| Court |
I agree. Though both are inaccurate. That didn't make you sound all that bright but I consider both words of desperation when facts and logic proved elusive. Froggy . . . I am with you. I signed my papers at Columbia today and picked up my faculty I.D. Enrollment is through the roof. They have a new program,, jokingly called the Lehman Brother's Alumni Club, that is a 2 year pre-med, for folks in their 30's and 40's. they do the 2 years of sciences and then go to Medical School. Looks interesting and it's almost entirely folks who last their jobs on Wall Street. I plan on sticking around for a while too . . . I love my jobs . . . all 3 of them! | ||
| M2me |
I am very bright and very logical. I have the facts on my side. Let's look at the facts. You posted that 550,000 more people lost their jobs in August. That number is not accurate and I still have no idea where you came up with it. 466,000 more people lost their jobs in August. I posted that there were 216,000 jobs lost in August. Jobs lost is not the same as people lost their jobs. I even clarified it in a later post by explaining the "net jobs lost" idea. Why did I post that number? I did it to counter your assertion that Obama's policies and the stimulus in particular have been completely ineffective. That is not accurate. The economy has been shedding jobs since Dec. 2007, before Obama had even announced his candidacy for president and less than year after Democrats gained control of Congress. The jobs lost number peaked in March 2009. The overall trend has been downward ever since. The August 2009 number was the lowest since August 2008. That is a fact. There are clear and concrete signs that the economy has begun to recover. A personal example: I just got my IRA statement in the mail today. My IRA value is now back to where it was in the second quarter of 2008. It began moving downward in the fourth quarter of 2007. It moved sharply downward in the fourth quarter of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009. It has been moving up ever since. It will likely equal or even surpass its 2007 fourth quarter value in the fourth quarter of 2009. The stimulus package was designed to work over a two year period. It was enacted in February 2009. It is now October 2009. Eight months is not two years. Two years is twenty four months. That is a fact. Columbia? Guess who graduated from Columbia with a degree in political science? Barack Hussein Obama. That is a fact! | ||
| Reindog |
m2me, Yes, you did. When Court replied about ACORN, you implied that he was a racist. Don't have time to argue because I am heading out to Sequoia for a weekend motorcycle ride and have to get to bed. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Ahh, I think I've spotted the problem. People are losing their jobs because Court & co are collecting them, see he has 3 already!   | ||
| Court |
>>>Guess who graduated from Columbia And Eric Holder. Obama PROMISED 3,000,000 new jobs by now. The fact is we have lost jobs. Regardless of what our 401(K)s or pensions do there will be no recovery without job creation. For an interesting twist read the report of the Congressional Budget Office. There will be no job creation the way the "stimulus" plan is written. It's a pork barrel plan and part of the reason that only about 7%. You'll find some varying figures but your figures are well out of whack regarding when the money gets spent.  For a bit of a sense of the whole job thing read the report from the Presidents Council of Economic Advisors. You'll see some of the reasons why this plan was doomed from the outset. What I'd expect when a "neighborhood organizer" fiddles with economic policy.  I'd refer you to the Congressional Budget Office . . . the same folks who have reported that the Presidents claims of "deficit neutral" are not based in fact . .. however . . . the administration ain't that good at estimating. They missed "Cash for Clunkers" by 300% and yesterday they fessed up that a program they'd estimated at $25,000,000,000 actually ended up costing 379,000,000,000. Keep an eye (to the extent you can since Nancy Pelosi has prohibited the bill from being posted for public view . . . no kidding . . . on the current iteration of the Healthcare Bill. The way it is currently written (unlikely to be passed), it leaves 25,000,000 UNINSURED and gets significant funding from tax increases, in various forms, from folks making less than $250K/yr. There, it seems, is no shortage among the unbright . . . . led by our own Charlie Rangel chairing the most powerful committee in Washington with $1,800,000 in unpaid taxes. Where have the leaders gone? I'm off riding and writing today as well . . .gorgeous day in NYC. . . . Grump you may be on to something . . . I've got a day job, a night job and a weekend job. . . . . and . . . LOVE all 3 of them! I'm off to do 200 miles of my favorite job today! | ||
| Court |
Just off the AP newswire . . .
Posted for TWO reasons: ONE: To show how "spin" works . . . . the mere thought of "new unemployment claims FALLING to 521,000" in a week is scary. What a predicament when "falling to 521,000" is a "good" trend. Particularly when the stimulus package was to leap into place immediately (remember the term "shovel ready") and "create" 3,000,000 jobs. They are now down about a net 7,000,000. TWO: It was nice to see their figure agree with the one I'd quoted and been called some name . . . racist, liar, salesmen or whatever . . . I was dead on. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
unemployment claims will continue to drop cause there are fewer jobs to be let go from is the way i see it. and do they even consider the people who aren't able to get unemployment because they got into a job that they didn't like and quit because of the b.s. and because they quit, are not entitled to unemployment compensation. | ||
| Pammy |
Court...No silly...Blake is the "racist" and you are the "bullshitter/salesman". Don't set yourself up to be labeled the Doddering Old Codger that can't remember shite. Of course we can call you D.O.C. for short. Ha Ha. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The sad part of the argument is the fact that we are dithering over 544,000 or 521,000 or whatever the number is. The fact is that the stimulus isn't working and it doesn't appear that the administration knows why or what to do about it. I'd really like for the Federal Government to give the unspent stimulus money back to us and let us go to work. | ||
| Blake |
"hateful and rage filled post like Blake directed at me yesterday." I harbor neither hatred nor rage towards you John; nor did I express such emotion in my post. I simply despise you John. I think that you are about as foolish and idiotic and dishonorable as they come. I think you'd sell your mother if you thought that it would help bolster your far-left socialist and partisan Democrat shilling views. For instance, I've warned you at least twice recently that if you aren't here primarily for the Buell motorcycle content, then you need to avoid posting here. You've neither honored that request or even had the integrity to acknowledge it. I find that you are a sniveling prevaricating louse who thinks he can go around doing and saying whatever he pleases with zero respect or consideration for others. You blatantly violate our terms of use, then turn around and deny doing so. You call people racists, bullshitters, salesman, and other insulting names. You pretend to be in sole possession of the facts, when in truth your facts are nothing of the kind; they are just more partisan propaganda sucked from the fetid trough the far left whack-job, socialists in their self-deluded word where it is always proper to blame-America-first and demand that government solve all society's ills. | ||
| Court |
>>>nor did I express such emotion in my post. Hehehehe . . that's an accurate statement. Trust me if Blake gets "hateful and rage filled" it won't require a committee vote or a discussion . . . it'll be evident as hell. As one of the people who has the ability to really piss him off I'd counsel you to settle at "despised" and drop it. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Amen Fatty!! The best way to stimulate the economy is to give nothing to anyone. Make them go earn it through hard work. No work, no money. A country that wants to keep its citizens on the big government sugar teat is aligning itself for impending doom. | ||
| Rainman |
Gee guys, speaking as a moderate conservative kicked out of the GOP back in 1988 for his pro-choice stance, I think we're all insulting each other a little too much. Bottom line for Obama haters is that there were enough Americans who believe as does he that we now must consider them less of a fringe and more of a mainstream movement. We don't have to like it, but we have to deal with it. Bottom line for Obama lovers is that a large portion of America does not believe in a progressive social agenda and must be considered less of a fringe and more of a mainstream movement. You don't have to like them, but you have to deal with them. I ain't saying we gotta get along, but if we sit and snipe, we ain't gonna get nothing done. We have to find common ground and give each other a modicum of respect or we will epic fail. As for politics on BadWeb, don't forget, we're here because we ride and one pimply punk in a puce Peugot can kill any of us. (Message edited by Rainman on October 08, 2009) | ||
| Whatever |
Why the f*&k hasn't this been moved to the backfire board... sorry but I can't stop LMAO at the moment...  | ||
| Aesquire |
Bottom line for Obama haters is that there were enough Americans who believe as does.... I partly disagree. I think that the level of commitment to the "progressive" agenda was de-emphasized after the primaries. Quite effectively. Unfortunately, this is SOP in presidential campaigns. You talk tough to your base then slide to the center after you get the nomination, so as to get the most of the "undecided" vote. Since aprox. 40% of Americans are going to vote for their party, ( the numbers change but it's about 40D/40R long term ) no matter who the actual candidate is, the 20% in the middle, who actually make a decision decide who gets elected. I didn't like McCain as a choice, myself. The McCain-Fiengold bribery reform bill alone was a reason for dislike, and high irony, as Obama's team used it to launder over $600 million. Obama was quite candid during the primaries. He believes very strongly that those who have should have their wealth redistributed to those with less. There is his own words on how the Constitution, ( that he swore to uphold, more than once ) is a charter of negative rights, ( True! ) and he wishes that the courts had imposed a far more potent form of "social justice" than they did. So? The Obama ( and, to a less skillful degree, Hillary's ) campaign ran a beautiful riff on traditional Marxist / revolutionary class envy themes. The repeated claim that only the "rich" would pay is still going on, despite that being actually impossible, as any honest accounting student can tell you. The "rich" don't have enough money. Now "rich" has been defined as "income over $100.000/150.000/200.000" ( the number changing from speech to speech )finally settling on $250.000 a year. So, I think Obama is not a man who has a really large minority that agree with what he thinks. He's just convinced them that he thinks what they do. ...we ride and one pimply punk in a puce Peugot can kill any of us. RIGHT ON!! Now, as to the topic.... I work in a buggywhip company. management seems incompetent, and constrained by Congress preventing any useful reform. I'm just hoping that my job is still around until I can get at least some of the money that I am due under contract. ( that is assuming I don't get fired for blurting that the Emperor has no clothes one too many times ) I have my doubts. Since the Union keeps only bribing one party, ( guess  ) when the other is in power, they get diddle. ( which is about what they get from the guys they keep giving millions of our dues money to, but just try telling them that! ) If I lose this crappy gig, I'm going back into education, I have to get just a few more credits for the teaching certs, and there should be room somewhere for a history of technology nut that can teach anything from catapults to plasma rockets. | ||
| M2nc |
I am with you Whatever. This is the funniest freaking thing I have read in weeks. I'd like to answer the original question but that just seem wrong somehow. | ||
| M2me |
As one of the people who has the ability to really piss him off I'd counsel you to settle at "despised" and drop it. I'd love to drop it, but what can I do? No matter what I post Blake replies with another tirade about how I'm violating the rules, about my disrespectful behavior (I'm not even sure what that means). My mere existence turns Blake's stomach. He can't stand me. He wrote that himself. I'm sorry but I don't know what to do about that and I honestly don't think there is anything I can do. I've tried not to antagonize him by not responding directly to him, but even that fails because then I'm charged with not having "the integrity to acknowledge" his requests! I've come to the conclusion that it's better not to waste energy trying to change something that I can't. I am what I am and if that turns Blake's stomach well, I'm sorry about that. I'm really not a bad person. Really, I'm not. I guess I'm not supposed to be here unless I'm interested in the "motorcycle content". Look at the Quick Board. Happy birthday, Whatever is annoying, Ken Burns National Parks, etc. A lot of it has nothing to do with motorcycles. Big deal! If somebody posts a thread topic that I'm not interested in or don't like, who cares? I certainly don't! I just look at something else. I've been riding motorcycles since 1992, I've owned a Buell since 2001. I really enjoy motorcycling. But it's not all that I am. I have a point of view and not everyone agrees with it. So what? I don't care! There are billions of people on this earth. Every one is unique. I understand that they are all not going to agree with me. But that's OK. It would be a pretty dull world if everybody thought like me! | ||
| M2me |
TWO: It was nice to see their figure agree with the one I'd quoted and been called some name . . . racist, liar, salesmen or whatever . . . I was dead on. Remember about two months ago when I wrote that only 7 people have lost their jobs but 3 were hired and you called me a racist and a liar?
I was dead on! | ||
| M2me |
This is the funniest freaking thing I have read in weeks. I know what you mean. There is something hilarious about it. | ||
| Whatever |
The bottom line, John, is that this is Blake's house so to speak... I don't agree with any of Blake's politics (at least the opinions I know about)... but when I am in his house I play by his rules... I got pretty worked up about the blatant BS that was being posted up here a few months ago... but knowing Blake personally I just let it go... Lord knows he put up with my incessant sarcasm, flirting and yes, even mind f*&%ing with people the first year I was on...2002 The thing about Blake name calling is hilarious to me, because he is one of the more mellow people I know from Badweb... Now back to the brawl, anyone want to place bets??? | ||
| M2me |
The thing about Blake name calling is hilarious to me, because he is one of the more mellow people I know from Badweb... Oh. he's a regular riot all right. Here are the things Blake said about me in his latest post: "I simply despise you", "you are about as foolish and idiotic and dishonorable as they come", "I think you'd sell your mother", "you are a sniveling prevaricating louse". How would you feel if these things were written about you? Would you think the person who wrote them was really mellow? What in God's name have ever done to this guy? Why does he despise me and my mother so much? I love my mom very, very much. To write that someone would sell their mother has to be the lowest thing one human being could write about another human being. What did ever I do to deserve this? | ||
| Aesquire |
I don't know about sniveling. That's harsh, Blake. The Prevaricating part, that's obvious. | ||
| Court |
>>>>put up with my incessant sarcasm, flirting and yes, even mind f*&%ing with people Char . . . say it ain't so? Where's the love? It's the INTERNET people. | ||
| Whatever |
Exactly Court... it is the INTERNET... 90% of the people that act out on the internet would not do so if they were in a person's living room... well unless they were completeley inebriated or something. Sad to say, but it is entirely true... I think both Blake and John are out of line, but Blake wins because it is his internet "living room" so to speak. Pretty simple. Oh yeah, I also don't agree with Court's politics either... but so what? We remain on badweb for our love of Buells for f*&^ sake... there is not ANYTHING political about that. Now, everyone, kiss and make up!  And as an endnote, I don't really give a flying crap about how many unemployed people there are this month or last month... I just know I have been unempolyed going on a year now and it sucks. If you have a job and can pay your bills why argue about the facts... just be grateful you are not one of the many who's future has turned to $hit overnight through no fault of their own!!! (Message edited by Whatever on October 09, 2009) |
