| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
CABLE NEWS RACE THURSDAY NITE, SEPT 10 FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,609,000 FOXNEWS BECK 3,340,000 FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,986,000 FOXNEWS GRETA 2,522,000 FOXNEWS BAIER 2,362,000 FOXNEWS SHEP 2,040,000 MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,573,000 MSNBC MADDOW 1,164,000 CNN KING 965,000 MSNBC HARDBALL 882,000 MSNBC SCHULTZ 734,000 CNN COOPER 691,000 RAHM IT! Obama sets stage for using budget maneuver to pass health reform... | ||
| Littlebuggles |
what do the numbers mean? | ||
| New12r |
Viewers?? | ||
| Rocketsprink |
means there is lots of crazies  | ||
| Dalton_gang |
It means the majority of people who get their news / entertainment from cable news channels don't give a shit about what the left sided cheerleaders have to say. | ||
| Phillyblast |
It means liberals have a higher rate of literacy  Or there are more liberal football fans than conservative football fans. (Message edited by phillyblast on September 12, 2009) (Message edited by phillyblast on September 12, 2009) | ||
| Cyclonedon |
means there is lots of crazies Hey! Don't call me a crazy! I NEVER watch Fox News! It's would just be like reading a tabloid newspaper which is full of crap! | ||
| Court |
I find it more interesting that things like the ACORN scandal (yep, they were getting BILLIONS of YOUR money) and the other news sources had not one single word. Oberman, Matthews and Maddow are quickly becoming worthless. Cool that Greta Sustren gets more viewers that nearly all the libs combined. Their chickens are indeed coming home to roost . . . you can't lie, cheat and steal from the American people and get away with it by trying to conceal facts. Obama is a frickin' idiot. His ass kicking on health care, which he still has yet to explain, will be his undoing. I do thank him for the great comedy though . . . "goona add 5,000,000,000,0000 and we'll fund it by efficiency". Lending to credence to the term "had his brains fuched out". He's on the precipice of "has been". | ||
| Teeps |
Why Obama Is a Lame Duck http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/08/19/stiletto -obama-lame-duck/ | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
It means liberals have a higher rate of literacy : ) Or it could mean that conservatives tend to keep up on issues that affect the country and not just who theyre voting for on election day. All the hollywood propaganda and college kid support has died down now that god has been elected. Its just not as hip as it was back during the election to rally around the messiah. | ||
| Dalton_gang |
"It means liberals have a higher rate of literacy" Why waste time reading fairy tails when you can watch the real story unfold as it happens? | ||
| Bill0351 |
So right-wing conservatives spend more time sitting in front of the TV? On the other side of it, liberals read more books. Democrats are almost 20% more likely to watch the network news than Republicans. Democrats also have a higher level of formal education. So... To sum things up, right wing Republicans DOMINATE Democrats in the area of sitting in front of the TV or by their radio listening to people tell them things the want to hear. They are also apparently intensely proud of this statistic. Very powerful stuff! No offense meant to the remaining reasonable and thinking members of the Republican party, but those viewership statistics are more embarrassing than something to be proud of. Bill | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
On the other side of it, liberals read more books. Democrats are almost 20% more likely to watch the network news than Republicans. Democrats also have a higher level of formal education. Please cite your source for this data. Thanks. | ||
| Phillyblast |
Hey Sacborg is back! Cool I forgot why I don't hang over here much, thanks Court. Shame, this used to be a place to talk about Buells. See you in two years when the sac domain expires again. Or not, since I'm riding a 'zuki now. It is amazing that what people (say, the bus driver or employees at my nearest qualified Buell dealer) post on a web board, has influenced my purchasing decision and after a 15 or more year love affair with Buell, I'm done. Oh, well. So long and thanks for all the fish. Look for the S2 to arrive in the classifieds sometime in the future. | ||
| Court |
Citi has already thumbed it's nose . . . and they are right. The contracts, like them or not, are valid and were in place well before the feds arrived on the scene. I will . . in light of the Obama administrations willingness to simply ignore the bankruptcy laws as they screwed bond holders to kiss up to the same union who's jobs they were screwing with . . . admit that law means very little to this group who see themselves as Chicago thugs Their little house of cards is beginning to cave. . . it was nice to see one of their favorite unions, the SIEU, take in on the chin yesterday. The unraveling will happen fast and the moment we have the upcoming "significant national event" . . it will accelerate. Keep an eye on Rahm. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I suspect traditional networks have entrenched ideology, and cater to an entrenched demographic, and they are (for better or worse) locked in a death spiral. You know, the corporation has a culture and the consumers fit a demographic. Just like every other business / consumer relationship on the planet. I believe (and just about any rational review discovers the obvious) that the traditional network news outlets are stacked with people of a liberal idology. Something like 7 out of 10 journalists are Democrats. And the other three are probably lying  I believe they *try* and be objective, but I can tell you for a fact they fail. Not just because I don't agree with them, but because whenever they try and tell me why I believe what I believe, they almost always get it completely wrong. They just don't get it. Not a surprise, I would do a lousy job of representing *their* issues accurately as a result of my worldview also. Thats why diversity is important, and the major news outlets simply don't have it. Impartial media has never existed in my lifetime. I have heard speculation that after watergate, media students went into media because they "wanted to make a difference". Generally, a liberal activist difference. But I suspect that any large sampling of english / history / journalism students will always have a significant liberal trend, just like any large sampling of engineers / accountants / military will have a conservative trend. Ideologies have a correlation with professions (maybe causal, maybe just a non causal correlation). Recently, the thinly veiled hate from the major media outlets for Bush, and the thinly veiled adulation for Obama, are starting to have repercussions. The media love fest for Obama meant he was given more then enough rope to hang himself, and given a heck of a run in the wrong direction with a LOT of gathered inertia. Rational vetting and challenging of stupidity would have let him tune his game and make rational corrections. When the crash comes, it's gonna be a doosey. | ||
| Blake |
Hate to break it to the FOX News hating left wingers here, but Fox News was rated by a non-partisan UCLA study, the non-partisan Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA) at George Mason University, and Harvard University as the most unbiased source of news in the industry. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is -Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/grosecl ose/Media.Bias.8.htm http://www.cmpa.com/releases/07_12_21_Election_Stu dy.pdf http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=2 78808786575124 Delusion is a real danger when it comes to the electorate. Get the facts and get real. People that shun particular news providers on an ideological basis are just saying that "my views cannot stand up to scrutiny." Sad. (Message edited by blake on September 12, 2009) | ||
| Aptbldr |
FOX News must be WAY down the hall from rest of its programing: http://www.fox.com/shows.htm : ) | ||
| Moxnix |
Against stupidity the gods themselves agonize in vain.--Wolfgang Schiller The term fair and balanced" has an inherent implication that other players in the news business are "unfair and unbalanced." I wonder but what THAT is not a salt-in-the-wound rub for those who prefer the liberal bend. I believe the division of newsies at the election booth was about 92 percent voting Democrat, the rest Republican in 2004. Huh. Whether or not that bleeds over into their reporting is obvious. And newspapers are failing or going broke, laying off staff or forcing early retirement. Too bad their management doesn't get it, as they cover local issues rather well. Clearly management is willing to drive the bus over the cliff rather than just hire reporters and leave the budding Woodward and Bernstein wannabees on the sidewalk with their opinions and spin. | ||
| Court |
>>>FOX News must be WAY down the hall from rest of its programing: I suspect it's little more than common ownership . . thing New York Times and Trojan Condoms. Be tough to judge one on the audience of the other . . . but with the folks in The White House . . . who knows. I will say it's kind of cool that Fox News is the ONLY news agency that Obama has mentioned twice in the last week. He doesn't stand up well to facts and it really pisses him off. | ||
| Dalton_gang |
Bill, I was just having some fun with Phillyblast. Clearly I was not attacking or trying to belittle him. I was obviously poking fun at the liberal press and nothing else. I really don't consider myself to be a "right winger". In fact I believe that I am more in the middle than you think, all though I do lean more to the right side of center. Also I quit considering myself to be a Republican about a year ago. I will no longer consider myself to be anything more than a Patriotic American tax payer when it comes to political alignment. Also I don't think that a person needs to have much of an education to be able to identify corruption or be able to see that their freedoms are eroding away and that they are being unfairly taxed. (just my opinion though) | ||
| Alchemy |
The CMPA news release election study was from 2007 for a 3 month period. I hope there are 4 or 5 more studies to back that one up. I care little about fair (who is to judge) but I do care about balance. Both credible sides of an issue should get their chance. ALL the media outlets have significant room to get better. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I know a nice little 20 year old female lib who reads books and recently told me aliens seeded the planet and she voted for Obama because he is the anti-Christ and she couldn't go against destiny. Yea, she's way smarter than I am. | ||
| Aesquire |
Not counting the opinion shows, Oreally, hannity, Beck, etc. Fox news is slightly left of reality. Even on Fox, it's biased, just way closer to traditional center than the bulk of news. NBC is about 1 notch left of Lenin, and the rest hover in that area. I'm liberal, ( NOT progressive, Rush has it wrong with his labels ) and I could deal with the bias, you just consider the source, but they outright lie too much for them to be any use at all. Might as well watch BBC, you know where they come from & seldom lie. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Might as well watch BBC, you know where they come from & seldom lie. Yea, maybe, when they are doing a piece on the Yellow-Rumped Warbler | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Fair and balanced what ever.... It should inspire you and drive you to READ the bills that are before the congress; get at the source text. Find what the bill is actually saying, and better who is lobbying to support it. AND when you are done with that, write a damn letter to urge your representative to READ the damn thing before they sign anything. 1100 pg behemouth of shenanigans, follow the money, all else is talking head bs. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
It's not just that you read, it's WHAT you read. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"Democrats also have a higher level of formal education." Of course they do. While most liberals are wasting time and money on multiple liberal arts brain washings, most conservatives go out into the real world and put their education to practical use. G | ||
| Madduck |
I have a very liberal niece living in Boulder, CO. I made four predictions about the "changes" Obama would have accomplished by my birthday Sept. 10, she of course said that I was just mad that Palin lost. We had agreed that McCain would make a lousy President. 1) Gitmo would still be open and there would be no real end in sight. 2) Iraq war would go from strikingly positve to negative, with Obama maintaining the Bush strategy. 3) The war in Afghanistan would be trending very badly, Obamas solution would be to try the Bush surge strategy. 4) Most of Bushes senior beurocrats would still be in temporary positions of authority because Obama hasn't the experience and background to fill all those cabinet and sub positions. She called bright and early and has promised to take off the Obama/Biden bumper sticker from her Honda. Not a huge loss/victory for either of us, the honda is traded in on a Volvo C3 and I really hate being right on all of this. My last prediction was that he would be in prison by November 2010, We agreed that the odds on that have been moving higher pretty fast. I sincerely hope that I am wrong again. She is losing all enthusiam for politicians and I've told her that she isn't allowed to lose interest. The citizens are the only hope this country has, even misguided liberals. | ||
| Court |
>>>My last prediction was that he would be in prison by November 2010 Perhaps . . . But I'm banking on Rahm taking the hit . . . Obama. the student of Chicago Street-itics . . . is a pro at blaming others. Let's just hope Rahm has time to polish is "this problem I inherited" line. During the election I thought they were simply inexperienced, during the transition . . . they looked stupid . . . now I see they are simply criminal. Amazing how I agree with you . . . I think we're going to see some "Change" alright . . . just not the stuff the National Endowment for the Arts got their funding threatened over if this didn't do the "art that supports the President" crap . . . |
