| Author | Message | ||
     Ft_bstrd |
Under fire Presidential adviser Van Jones resigns One Czar down, 70 more to go. | ||
| P_squared |
Wonder if goes back to "Color of Change" now, or if he finds some other spot in the administration. Who's got the popcorn? | ||
| Bluzm2 |
That guy was SCARY! Unfortunately, he still has PBO's ear and will continue to chatter at will.. | ||
| Odie |
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| Chellem |
I've spent some time this morning trying to understand people who supported Van Jones. And there are a lot of people out there. Doing a quick tweet search came up with some disturbing things. I mean, besides some STRONG hatred of Beck, a lot of people think that Van Jones was wronged somehow, that this proves that Republicans really ARE assholes (his words, not mine) and that this just proves that Republicans will do anything to stop a good man like Van Jones. Beck has some flair in his show. He expresses a lot of opinions which are generally, but not always, founded on facts or soundbites. The fact that Beck brought them out aside, the sound bites and video clips cannot be denied, or taken out of context. Van Jones really said and did these things. All the other czars really said and did the things he reports. How are these things defended? How can it be that someone who brags about becoming a communist radical while in JAIL has been wronged somehow by being asked to resign from a position of advising the POTUS?? I'm not trying to make trouble. I really don't understand. Why is everyone blaming Beck? These were his actions, not a "smear campaign" against him? Can anyone explain? | ||
| Madduck |
It is pretty simple, people defend those that are like them or that hold the same views. Black guys in prison is about 30%of the black population, so that alone won't be held against him. Virulent hatred for the society built by whites in america, black racism is alive and well and about 30 percent of the democratic party agrees with it. Is all of this insane, of course. Reason has little to do with politics or governance. It is all about the acquisition of power, "chicago style" is the most successful long term example. Should any country be governed this way, of course not. Public good is benefit to all. Rewarding special interests at expense of others should be criminal but then how would any politician raise money for their campaigns. Banning paid TV spots would cut down on the need to rais so much money but try to get that by anyone in DC. | ||
| Chellem |
I've always thought it should be illegal to support any one policital party. You can give to the ELECTION, but you can't pick sides. Then the money is split up among the candidates. No you can't use your personal money. Equal cash for everyone's campaign. No one can buy an hour of time on networks unless everyone can afford it. Then no particular candidate owes anything to any lobbyist or person or persons. No favors will have to be repaid. And really really rich people wouldn't be the only ones allowed to run. But, ya know, that'll never happen. | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
Chellem, What is there to Explain? Blind Faith.Simple as that. Therefore, the decisions of the Obama cabinet WILL NOT BE QUESTIONED. President Barack Hussein Obama is simply righting the wrongs of the past. (Message edited by roadcouch98 on September 06, 2009) | ||
| Chellem |
I guess I was hoping some of the people on the board who lean a little lefter than me would say something to defend Obama's czars. But I don't think they'll come out and speak for fear of judgement here. I just cannot wrap my head around this outrage people feel on behalf of this self-proclaimed communist radical revolutionary. | ||
| Crusty |
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| Chellem |
Crusty, why did you just bump all these threads up with a post consisting soley of a picture if they bore you so? | ||
| Reindog |
You probably won't hear anyone support VJ here because racism is indefensible except in the minds of racists. The real question is how can Obama have been so stupid to hire him in the first place? Is Bill Ayers or the most Reverend Jeremiah Johnson next in line for a czar position? Conservatives were always against Obama. Independents are waking up and turning against Obama. Left of center Liberals must be next in line in questioning Obama's policies. The growing evidence is indisputable. | ||
| Chellem |
The real question is how can Obama have been so stupid to hire him in the first place? I don't think Obama is stupid. I think that he's very smart. I think he's also incredibly arrogant. He's been surrounded - for a long time - by people who treat him like the second coming, and that HAS to have an effect on how you view yourself. It may not occur to him that people would question him. The complete dismissal of anyone who dissents speaks to that arrogance. I have no doubt that he knew. He knows all his czars fairly well, I would assume. Would you hire complete strangers as your closest advisers? I mean, can I submit my resume somewhere to become a czar? No, he knows all of these people and their pasts. He either doesn't care, doesn't think it matters.... Or agrees with them. I hope it's one of the first two. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I guess I was hoping some of the people on the board who lean a little lefter than me would say something to defend Obama's czars. If you want to see opposing viewpoints check out democratic underground. There are several threads there talking about van jones. Theyre calling it a smear campaign hyped up by "faux" news. One even thinks the oil companies had a hand in this and another thinks people opposing van jones are a minority compared to those that support him. Ive not seen data that shows either case. edit to add: I just looked at the first five polls I found on google and only one came close to a tie on whether van jones should be fired. The rest were overwhelmingly in favor of his resignation. Dont believe me though and see for yourself. (Message edited by johnnymceldoo on September 06, 2009) | ||
| Dbird29 |
This is the tit for tat that is the outcome of all the years of Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS). Remember the fantasy movie of killing Bush? The Joker poster of Bush? The 9/11 theory that Bush was in cahoots with the Suadis? Ad nauseum....... It worked for the Democrats and got them Power, now the Conservatives are using the same plays out of the book. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
There is a difference between imaginary, unprovable ills concocted by the loony left and verifiable, linkable youtube videos of someone being a communist moonbat racist. Kind of hard to disavow statements made February of 2008 as "ancient history". Preservation of the Constitution and appointment of openly communist advisors to the president are mutually exclusive. | ||
| Blake |
So only conservatives are concerned about having a communist revolutionary and 9/11 "truther" advising the president? I cannot even imagine a parallel for a conservative presidential advisor. This is not tit for tat or biased focus on political reporting. This is responsible journalism uncovering a radical communist crackpot at the heart of our government advising the president. Yet...
Unbelievable. | ||
| Blake |
Paul, You need to check your prison vs population numbers. Less than half of your number. I think difference between been in prison and currently in prison is more accurate. Still that is a shocking statistic. I had no idea it was that high. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/07/us/prison-rates- among-blacks-reach-a-peak-report-finds.html | ||
| Blake |
Well said Ft_B! I'm so sick and tire of the looking backwards baloney Boosh bashing. Pathetic. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Liberals MUST equate the movement for the ouster of Jones, Tax Tea Parties, and protests against Socialized medicine as "cheap tit for tat" politically motivated stunts in order to avoid having to actually review and understand the underlying issues. I don't oppose Obama because he is Black or a Democrat. I oppose him because his policies are damaging our nation and are NOT allowable under the Constitution. I opposed Bush when I view HIS policies as damaging our nation as well. | ||
| Ourdee |
FB, I agree with communist and racist. But, what is a moonbat? Let me guess, Squeaky rat with wings darting erratically instead of flying straight and being from the moon would be indicative of insanity or thoughts not well grounded on this planet. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
moonbat-- An unthinking or insane leftist -- in other words, most modern leftists. Moonbat can also be used as an adjective, e.g. a moonbat professor. According to the Wikipedia entry for moonbat, the word was coined in 2002 by the Editor of Samizdata, Perry de Havilland, and was a variation on the name of radical British activist and columnist George Monbiot. Originally, the term "moonbat" was intended to be more politically neutral, and described wackos on the left and the right, but it quickly acquired its current usage of being applied almost exclusively to those on the left. The term also references the moon much in the same way that "lunatic" refers to the insanity-causing powers of the full moon (luna = moon). Bloggers occasionally analyze the behavior patterns of various moonbat "species" as if they were actual animals, and even give them satirical Linnaean taxonomical names, such as "moonbattus berkeleyensis". The entry in the Samizdata glossary indicates that Perry originally coined the full phrase "barking moonbat"; apparently "moonbat" is just a subsequent shortened version of "barking moonbat," rather than being a pre-existing term that was lengthened to barking moonbat. | ||
| Chellem |
Wow. Looks like there's no shortage of nutjobs on both sides of the political fence. Now, I'm not above thinking the government would smear someone to ruin him - far from it - but, I mean, in this particular instance, the evidence is FAIRLY clear cut. Even if those quotes are taken out of context, I don't know what the correct context would be for his comments not to be radically communist. Whatever I guess. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
keef olberman is on a mission now to get beck fired or want to resign. | ||
| Madduck |
Blake, Your source listed only blacks currently in prison, my number includes currently in prison or on probation from prison. Prison records now mean very little for a black person. I've seena polls where blacks that haven't done any prison time are held in less regard because there is a suspicion that "they" may be too white. Some parts of this US culture will be doomed to failure unless this one statistic can be turned around. The phrase I've heard most is permanent under-class. | ||
| Court |
Jones was an IDIOT. I loved his "have created a campaign of smears, innuendo and half truth" . . . as was pointed out . . . no one did anything but show unedited videos of his stupid remarks. The product of a system that, in striving for equality, put some really unqualified folks into prestigious schools. Throw the ••••••• bum out. | ||
| Reindog |
NBC Nightly News just ran interference for VJ and made it seem like a Republican conspiracy. They used a phrase "the exotic nature of his position" or something to that affect. WTF? The man was an admitted Communist and revolutionary in full knowledge by the Obama gangster syndicate. | ||
| Court |
Be aware that Greta Van Sustren has MORE folks watching her than NBC, ABC, CBS and MSNBC combined . . . as someone pointed out . . the ONLY way you could rack up the numbers (O'Reilly getting 14,000,000 viewers??) is the huge numbers of independents and Democrats tuning in . . . | ||
| Dalton_gang |
"keef olberman is on a mission now to get beck fired or want to resign."  I have been waiting to see someone kick Queefs ass for a long time and I think that Beck is just the man to do it if provoked | ||
| Court |
Keith is no longer relevant. Once a journalist lies . . they become and entertainer. If they fail to be entertaining, they are finished. Keith is. |
