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Court
| Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 09:17 am: |
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>>>>I'll have High expectations again because I think Buell can succeed. I think you'll be quite pleased. Stay tuned for news. |
Jscott
| Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 09:24 am: |
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"I think you'll be quite pleased. Stay tuned for news." Most excellent!! Consider me tuned!! Better warn Blake because he may have already started his 2007 list of excuses. (Message edited by JScott on September 07, 2006) |
Blake
| Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 12:43 pm: |
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The enthusiasts among us have had high hopes for the XBRR. We've had no expectations for the XBRR, nor will we, other than expecting to enjoy seeing it competed in whatever venues it happens to be entered. On the Czysz issue, there is no half-filled glass issue. There is raw honest fact. There is no glass for 2006, and if there were it would have nothing in it. Hope to see the Czysz team get the thing up and running and out on the track in an actual race this year; that might be feasible. Remember Dr. Rob Tululie and his Tularis 800cc 2-stroke? Great stuff that! He actually put his bike on the track and won some races with it. He built a bike and went racing. Imagine that! Pretty sure he did it without begging for investors too, you know, just like Erik Buell did with the RW750. Erik also had to re-engineer the engine so it would hold together. Dr. Rob at least had the benefit of a reliable existing engine. I wish the Czysz team all the best and hope to see them on the track racing soon. That would be cool. Until then... the Czysz glass is glaringly empty and I'll be more enthused about the 2/3-full glass of the XBRR, you know, the bike that is out there actually racing, the one that has already won races, set lap records and shown a lot of promise? I wonder how long ago it was that the first XBRR engine was cranked up on the bench? |
Jlnance
| Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 01:18 pm: |
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Books written about folks who build motorcycle companies should be, to the greatest extent possible, accurate historically Not that Court would ever embellish a story ... |
Davegess
| Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 03:26 pm: |
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Not that Court would ever embellish a story Court always speaks the truth as he sees it. Sometimes how he sees it is skewed by just how pissed off his wife is gonna be when she finds out |
Court
| Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 06:41 am: |
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>>>>>Not that Court would ever embellish a story ... That's an inaccurate statement. I live to embellish and romanticize stories. This is an incredible life and should joyfully celebrate it. My writing style was, in Mrs. Herrick's Creative Writing class at Topeka High School, dubbed "expanded Gonzo-Realism". What perhaps some have mistaken and mis-labled "serial lying" is, in my eyes, nothing more that genuine enthusiasm. My life has been interesting. I never dreamed, as a construction worker, I'd be riding on Air Force One, trading writing ideas with Chris Matthews or see 44 states aboard a Buell. When most the world was looking at Buell as having a "snowball's chance in hell" eye, I was there cheer leading, trying to fill in gaps to advance Erik's dream. I've been wrong many times. So has Erik Buell. Neither of us has ever shirked stepping up to the plate and admitting it. "Embellishment" is what turns an event into an experience, a meeting into a celebration and brings enthusiasm to the mundane tasks of commerce. I had the pleasure of dining with one of the folks from Buell last weekend and being on a phone call, yesterday, in which someone said "aren't you ever going to calm down?" Wanna take a shot at what my answer was? If you need the dull facts, the charts, the graphs and the specs. . . come to the internet. It's there. It's there, in fact for everything from Ace Hodaka to Ural and Zundap. It's the beauty and enthusiasm that lend wonderment to Buell. If Buell's lore were but motorcycles, it would have long ago been relegated to a sweet memory. Court |
Jlnance
| Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 09:00 am: |
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And I won't fault you for it. Some people can tell a story, and I always enjoy their company. It's something I'm not naturally good at. It's like photography. Back when you actually had to operate cameras, I could take perfect, in focus pictures. Largest F stop that would allow a decent shutter speed and bingo. Everything was in focus. My mother knew far less about optics. About the time I went to college she started taking pictures. She would take pictures of the most mundane things. A fishing net, a pumpkin at the farmers market. And they would win awards. She covered the walls of my room with photography awards, and when she ran out of wall space, she just put them on my bed. Occasionally I'll find greeting cards with her pictures on them. I have absolutly no idea how she knows what to put in her pictures. And she doesn't always maximize depth of field. But she takes good ones. |
Motoczysz
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 01:08 am: |
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The glass must be half full. You need to be an optimist, having a passion for motorcycling is simply not enough to combat the constant emotional roller coaster that is-starting a motorcycle company. The when and where we can race has been a too fluid subject that would have been best kept behind doors, this is exactly why no other companies discuss their racing plans. We direct our business plan but many people and companies influence our racing plan. All the parties we are negotiating with want to participate in a complete multi year program, this type of program is in great contrast to the Buell/Daytona approach and takes longer to assemble. The discussions I have had, who I have meet with and what the future may hold for a MotoCzysz racing effort is way beyond what I could have imagined a few years ago. It is potential like this that gives everyone at MotoCzysz great optimism. A few points to consider: First- our effort is just three years old and should be compared to other projects in their third year. Even young companies like Buell have 17 years more development time then MotoCzysz, from my perspective that feels like a lifetime. Second- the greatest difference between MotoCzysz and the other great projects mentioned in this and similar threads, Tularis, Fischer and Buell all utilized existing or modified existing engines. Even the Britten was based on a Denco speedway engine. The complexity and development effort required goes up exponentially with a "clean sheet" engine design. So arguise is the task that it is even rare for established manufactures to choose clean sheet over evolution. Pick any part- something as seemingly straightforward as the piston required weeks of FEA to balance strength vs. weight. The shape (they are not round) valve relief’s, ring heights, materials etc. all need to be design, modeled and drafted, then when completed you can start on the design for the piston forging tool. This is not biker build off- take the engine out of the equation and reduce the work, money and time by 80%. The "brothers going to work it out, man hugging sequence" comment was very funny. Yes-we were elated when "she" fired as it only took 4 hours from load in to run. Both Cosworth and Magneti engineers have seen this same process take days and even weeks on engines far less complicated. More to the point- all qualified female engineers and mechanics are encourages to send their resumes in immediately! We are out testing again this Tuesday and nearly weekly at tracks all over the country for the next two months. In October several journalists will be riding the bike and will undoubtedly publish full reports on their impressions and in the off season a few national and world champions will test the bike. As far as our future, just like all of ours- no guarantees, but I am willing to risk virtually everything to create a world class 4 cylinder American sport bike. For at least today, the glass half full Thank you for your support it is appreciated. Ride Safe, Michael Czysz PS. I have ridden several Buells on the track and look forward to my first ride on the XBRR |
Jon
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 01:39 am: |
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Thanks for posting. |
Crashm1
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 03:16 am: |
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Ditto and whether it ever gets on a track in anger you have already done things most of us never attempt. I sincerely hope it works. I also hope to be able to afford more than one American bike someday and yours would be on the short list because I am a geek and your bike is geek eye candy. |
Blake
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 03:36 am: |
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A bad day working on a motorcycle beats a good day in the architect's office any day. |
Buellgirlie
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 03:55 am: |
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sign me up D |
Bigdaddy
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 06:55 am: |
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Hey Czysz, Impressive effort and I wish you the very best. Send me a test unit for some real-world mountain testing -- I can pick it up if ya'll are too busy. G2 |
Captpete
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 08:05 am: |
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Hey Michael: I'm 65 years old. I sure would be tickled if you could bring your creation to market before it's too late.
Capt. Pete |
Rocketman
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 09:25 am: |
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Hey Michael, I'm 45 years old and not sure if I've partied harder than the Capt. Ditto what he said anyway! Great luck with your valiant effort. You have nothing but my support for throwing yourself in at the deep end. Something I've wanted Buell to do for years. I've given up on that one now though. Rocket |
Skyguy
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 11:39 am: |
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I for one wish Motoczysz all the best. |
Court
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 02:52 pm: |
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>>>I for one wish Motoczysz all the best. Just so we are clear, as Michael looks in here, I'm not sure there is anyone here who has wished the firm anything but the best. My comments, and I stand by them based on experience, are that it is a very steep and slippery slope. By the way . . . I totally dig my MotoCyz hat! Thanks, Court |
Aeholton
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 07:42 pm: |
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Michael thanks for posting. I wish you well in your endeavor. |
Rocketman
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 08:51 pm: |
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Nice bit of diplomacy there Court Rocket |
José_quiñones
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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Thanks for posting here, Michael, I'm pulling for you guys, like Court mentioned, the path you have chosen is steep and slippery. Hopefully you can also sell plenty of 6x front end retrofit kits to help pay the bills along with all the clothes. |
U4euh
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 08:09 pm: |
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Man, how cool is it when another brand manufacturer comes to Buell central and talks of his work. I feel honored to be part of this. Michael, I do wish you the best and look forward to seeing more positive things from you and your company! ps-I hope you get the ride on the RR like you want, we'll be listening! (Message edited by u4euh on September 18, 2006) |
Vegasbueller
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:09 pm: |
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Maybe we should invite Michael and company over to the BBQ after the 200? Now if you can get Miguel to ride the thing! |
Motoczysz
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 02:57 pm: |
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Never one to miss a good BBQ, speaking of Miguel; here is my best impersonation of him. I am testing our new 2D suspension on a otherwise stock Honda 600.
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Bigdaddy
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 03:12 pm: |
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Well Sammie & Nick know how to throw a pretty awesome BBQ. Blake and M1 are fine cooks,,,I got pics somewhere? If you do show bring me a hat G2 |
M1combat
| Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 12:49 pm: |
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Hey I was just watching the fire ... I kept trying to pour beer on the dogs but Blake wouldn't let me... Daytona 2007!!!! WOOT! Thanks for stopping in Michael. I think you'll find this forum fairly unique in the grand scheme of the internet. We can certainly get a little heated and nasty at times, but most of the time we're all somewhat reasonable . Well a little reasonable anyhow... I understand that the point of your front suspension is to take some of the work that the forks would normally do (to make them travel less to get over the same bump so they don't impart as much force to the chassis) but what about damping side to side? Do you get any oscillation out of your solution just after a bump? I don't mean at the bars but I mean in the flexing suspension components themselves. My assumption is that the frequency of any oscillation at that spot would be high enough that it would stop almost immediately (like within a few ms). Good pic BTW . |
Captpete
| Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:13 pm: |
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Awesome Picture! |
Crashm1
| Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 01:14 am: |
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Lordy dude you got that critter about as heeled over as it gets. You're gonna need elbow sliders you keep that up. Oh yeah what Pete said! |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 02:28 pm: |
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Any news from/on the Czysz effort of late? |
Johnnymossville
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 02:38 pm: |
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I just visited their site the other day to see if there was any news. I guess/hope/imagine they are knee deep in bike right now taking baby steps every day closer to their dream. Haven't seen anything recently though either. |
Daves
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 02:44 pm: |
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Well, with all the "hype" about them building bikes and going racing I am appalled they are not doing it yet |
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