| Author | Message | ||
     Nutsnbolt |
You know... MZ comes with a 660cc Raptor engine. That's how they come. It has it's own unique riding characteristics. Try to find one for sale. I dare you. More over, try to find a MZ Skorpion (any style Skorpion) I used to own one, and like an ASS I sold it out of stupidity. I miss that bike more than I love my Buell. It has less horsepower than my XB, less top end, not as fast, but A FRIGGIN HELL OF A RIDE. I feel the same about my XB9R. I love my bike. I like that it is specifically DIFFERENT from the rest. As far as I'm concerned, the thumper that sat in the MZ is they way to go as far as single cylinder engines. But, if you strive to be different, you can't do the EVERYTHING the same as the competition. You know, you can find ANY I-4 motorcycle out there for cheap most of the time. Get one and keep it in your stable with your Buell. Once you ride it and then get back on your Buell, you will be able to appreciate some of the different aspects of the two. Yes, I would love a 6th gear, and a little more horesepower and top end and all that, but, that's not the bike that I bought. MZ BMW R100RT Seca Buell All underestimated All misunderstood Once owned, forever loved.... and hated. Take the good with the bad Mark | ||
| New12r |
So is a Jixxer 600, 750, and 1000 all the same bike? I mean you cannot tell them apart without stickers. | ||
| Diablobrian |
I had a friend back in San Diego that had a 2003 gsxr1000. I have much more fun riding my Buell than I did riding the gixxer1k. Don't get me wrong the gixxer had mind bending power, and a top end rush you have to feel to believe, it just wasn't as much fun to ride (for me) as the 86 gsxr 750 I was riding at the time and I enjoy the Buell more than than I ever did my old air/oil gixxer. I think that there is certainly such a thing as too much power on the street. Traction control will help change this for the many many novices riding liter bikes as their very first motorcycle (you know that the 600s are way too slow for them). We live in a golden age for the bench racers. The machines on the show room floors are a match for the full factory race bikes of as little as 6-7 years ago. The problem is that does not always make the motorcycles more fun. My Buell is an absolute HOOT to ride. So was a Yamaha route 66 xv250 v-twin that I re-built a few years back. For me there is a lot more than maximum top end power to making a bike fun to ride and own. My Buell has more personality and draws more attention when I park it than any of my previous motorcycles. Even if too many people mistake it for a Ducati (and that will probably happen even more now that the 1098 is out)  There are going to be a lot of people that disagree with me. My ego can handle that. | ||
| Barker |
I predict and want a replacement for the single(blast) engine. Since its a carbed Half XB9, I doubt it will go before the 2 cylinder XB's go. Word on the street is, Buell's commitment with Rider's Edge is over this year. This year the Blast is in white. Historically, a white bike from buell either marks a beginning or end of a product. Interesting? | ||
| Slaughter |
Diablobrain said: I think we were even both sporting Vincent Haskovec t-shirts, if my memory can be trusted Yes indeed! I got a picture of you in my pea-brain now. That indeed was me! Fun times meeting some of the folks in person after so long. | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
So is a Jixxer 600, 750, and 1000 all the same bike? I mean you cannot tell them apart without stickers. Well they're similar to each other... kinda like Buell's variations in the XB line. But look at just Suzuki's sport bike stable (Buell has HD for cruisers) They have the supersport line of gxxr's and the busa, the Bandits, The SV's, Katana's, and the V-strom's Now I understand that there's a lot of good reasons why Buell is doing what they are doing with the XB line. For a small company it makes a lot of sense. More diverse products mean more complications; new processes, new parts, research, development, ect, ect. But for growth of the company an additional line would be good. I think most people here would like to see a full fairing race inspired Buell to be sold along side the XB's. I think that if you're going to put out that type of bike then it has to be in the same league as the other race-inspired bikes offered by the competition. Just look at what the 675 did for Triumph. | ||
| Midknyte |
We live in a golden age for the bench racers. ain't that the truth  | ||
| Midknyte |
I think most people here would like to see a full fairing race inspired Buell to be sold along side the XB's. that would be a real shot in the arm. agreed. | ||
| Rocketman |
I love bench racing. In fact bench racing has some of the longest racing in the world! Troy | ||
| Ducxl |
Hey,what about a subsidiary.Harley-Davidson has one called "Custom Vehicle Operations" (CVO) which does HI-PO mods from the factory.We could have (BCVO) and get bikes' tuned with a "special" XBRR variant along with Ohlins etc. Hey,if it's good enough for Harley,why can't Buell get the same benefits? | ||
| Liquorwhere |
One reason..if you look on..I think page 526 of the 2007 parts book..it shows the Dyno runs for the bikes and the 110 cu "monster" from the CVO at HD doesn't put out much more than the 88 cu with a 95 cu upgrade...that happens to be super cheap comparatively. CVO from HD are a scam, so why wouldn't anything else that is supposedly "special" from that company not be a scam??? | ||
| Court |
You won't see that coming from Buell, at least not in the foreseeable future. All present efforts are tightly focused on doing some very defined things VERY WELL. This, as is the reality of business, required that a triage' system of priorities, given finite resources in terms of $$$ and human talent. Racing got "quasi-shelved" (don't think for a moment the race department was closed). My take, knowing very little about this and guessing based on where the chips appear placed on the game surface, is that the instant undertaking will greatly benefit racing and several other "owner demanded" activities. This relates, in a fairly indirect way, to the reasons that Buell has undertaken neither factory delivery and factory customs (with very few exceptions). Me? I'm still begging for a 2007 RSS-1200 from one of those remaining frames I keep having to view on the rack! Advancing technologies, in areas you could not even imagine, will benefit both Buell and it's customers. Call it an "Early 2007" guess. Court | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Buell's next motor will be a 125hp liquid cooled plant that is NOT the V-Rod motor. Product Developement is testing this motor as we speak. Look for it in 2009 or 10. | ||
| Midknyte |
"Buellinachinashop" I like that [handle]! | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
You'll like the new motor more and forget all about me. | ||
| Blake |
"Maybe I missed some things?" Understatement of understatements. LOL! I also like how you throw out "different ergonomics" so offhandedly. In at least one comparo, the XB12X Ulysses bested the BMW R1200GS. Taking an XB9R and doing that requires more than any run of the mill shade-tree mechanic could ever hope to achieve. Non-engineering professionals rarely if ever truly appreciate the scale and scope of work of engineering professionals. | ||
| Midknyte |
You'll like the new motor more and forget all about me. I rather doubt that. I'm one of the [few?] that actually like things the way they are. A new engine will benefit BMC and generate new/more sales, but I'll be keeping the one that I have. The more I learn about it, the more I like and respect it. The 9 was a step up for me and I'm not foolish enough to believe that I will outgrow it any time soon. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
When I find out more on the new motor, I'll post it, but so far, I hear its going to be a nice step up from current motors. | ||
| Spiderman |
Wow you have the privileged to know about the new engine and you are willing to do possible harm to BMC, nice  | ||
| Slaughter |
(Message edited by slaughter on January 05, 2007) | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
No more harm than all the ugly you rubbed off onto those Hooters girls in your pic. How's sharing info on a Buell motor with Buell enthusiasts hurting a thing? | ||
| Bads1 |
Hilarious.... I know quite a few that work at Buell and ones that are in know and I know nothing because,one they love there job's and two whoever is giving you info....even if its correct is surely putting his in deep jeopardy | ||
| Slaughter |
I can't reveal my sources but I can post a working drawing as a teaser (you can't say you got this from me)... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum b/f/f0/Steam_engine_in_action.gif/450px-Steam_engi ne_in_action.gif | ||
| Spiderman |
Nice come back BCS I'll have to remember such witty retort... BTW those are my cousins you should see our two headed off spring. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Retorts are my favorite. Cherry filled is best. I know quite a few people at HD, and to be 100% honest, I heard about the motor from a local dealer first! Then it was confirmed by a source at HD. Nobody at Buell or HD spilled any beans, if it was that big of a secret, dealers would know anything either. | ||
| Bads1 |
The people I know are pretty much working right with Erik and the lips are sealed about everything. Suburban knows Jack and Hal's may but Terry and the guy's wouldn't spill even to there mothers. Your full of false info and so is your connection. You might want to think about where your from....Germantown or Menomonee Falls??? We can easily check the IP and find out who you really are. If your here to start problem's please leave the sight. (Message edited by bads1 on January 04, 2007) | ||
| Eengler2 |
I know this thread is about engines, but I think what Buell needs more than a new engine is a better retail distributor. My local HD/Buell dealer is great for parts and questions about service, but sales... I could sit there all day waiting for someone to talk to me about a new bike. I recently asked about getting together some Buellers for a ride from the dealership; they looked very confused. They already have rides...w/HOG.  | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
I said local HD dealer, did I say Buell dealer? Quit fishing, you're not good at it. I'm from GT and work in the Falls...BIG DEAL! Ever think of where HD motors (Buell motors are from Capital Drive ) are made?? IN THE FALLS MAYBE?? Gee, where's the connection between me and HD motors? The Falls? Oh no, I gave away too much. Get a rope! IP address? why would you need it, I used my real email address when I signed up! The only person making trouble is you. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Eengler, if you get a chance to come up here, go to Hal's, they are mroe than willing to spend time with you. Hell, I told them I already ordered a bike and they still showed me bikes. Good folks there. | ||
| Blake |
Dana, Calm amigo. Rumors from dealers who think they know something are worth, well, not much. John, Dana does have a point, sharing insider info has and will get your inside source fired if he is found out. So it is true that if you care to avoid exposing him/her to that risk, it is very prudent to avoid sharing any insider info here. We don't however go fishing for IP's on behalf of H-D or BMC. My good friend Dana was mistaken on that point.  |
