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Buellfighter
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm gonna miss the ole bugger...not
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you think that this will lead to violence & riots?

Oh, wrong subject, I meant Brittany Spears no pants pics.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like Death is on it's way to collect!


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Cheers!
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad to see him going (less than 50 minutes and counting)

But if anybody thinks this solves anything except the costs of his continued upkeep, you're only kidding yourselves.

He'll become a figurehead/martyr - violence will continue. The outcome of the trial will be questioned - judicial competence... all that.

Good riddance to bad rubbish - but we've changed nothing.

Bet me.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No bets here...Just sick of US keeping him alive on our dime.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just saw on the news that he has been killed.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah BBC has been saying it for about 10 minutes or so... Still unconfirmed
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been confirmed 10 minutes ago according to my news channel.
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Buellfighter
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saddam has left the building.
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Rum_runner
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Boy its unfortunate Bin Laden wasn't there to join him.
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

AMF!
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Jon
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Changing anything is not the point Slaughter. He deserved to die. It's justice.

Do you believe in the death penalty? I take it that you might.

(Message edited by jon on December 29, 2006)
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes indeed I DO believe in the death penalty. NOT as a deterrent but as a justifiable outcome.

Saddam's execution is only a small part of the process in the middle east.

I would have preferred that he just be "disappeared" rather than giving the nutjobs the opportunity to hoist him up as a martyr.

I have NO problem with executions. I can even accept the occasional killing of an innocent person. Not saying that there is ANY innocence in Saddam!
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Jimidan
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon says:

Changing anything is not the point Slaughter. He deserved to die. It's justice.

Changing something has everything to do with it...that was supposedly why we went in there. If nothing has changed, then there are over 3,000 deaths of US service men and women who have died unnecessarily.

I agree, the death has changed little in Iraq, since the Sunnis will use it as a battle cry in this dirty little civil war based on a lie. Justice has very little to do with anything in Iraq. We are training army and police so that they can become more effective death squads in the sectarian violence.

jimidan
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Kdan
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got just one question; Did his neck snap or did he get to dangle a little?
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Jon
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jimidan,

Change has nothing to do with Saddam's death as a cause. It's simple justice. Change may or may not come as a result and does not invalidate in any case our dead 3000 plus soldier's service and sacrifice.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ropes are expensive, bullets are cheap. They should've just ventilated him.

Or stake him over a badger hole.

Or hog tie him in a 6X6 cell with a fire hose staked in the middle with a big heavy nozzle then turn that puppy on full blast.

Or crush his skull by slamming the toilet seat down on his head while he's getting a drink of water.
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Old_man
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope I don't!! - ( "See ya Saddam" )

I sure don't want to end up where he's at.
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This may come as a bit of a shock to some of you.......

You know, at times like this I'm glad we have people like Nicky Hayden in the world.

It reminds me that good guys do exists, and I'm so looking forward to watching Nicky and Valentino tough it out next season. That's what the world is all about. Pure unadulterated entertainment. Entertainment that makes us smile, as it has done for weeks. I just got through reading the Moto GP season review, and it makes me so happy to have witnessed a fantastic season. Even more so when you see how much joy Hayden displayed in winning, and likewise Rossi magnanimous and yet happy in defeat despite the pain.



F*ck that evil bastard. The world is a better place without him.

Rocket
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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saddam Hussein has been forced to watch South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut, according to the film's co-creator Matt Stone.

The former Iraqi leader is portrayed in the movie as a homosexual who is in a relationship with the devil, and Stone claims the prisoner is being forced to watch it "repeatedly" as he is held by US Marines.

The South Park movie was banned on release in Iraq seven years ago.

Stone reveals: "I have it on pretty good information from the Marines on detail in Iraq that they showed him the movie. That's really adding insult to injury. I bet that made him really happy."



I love my brothers in the Marine Corps...


So long Saddam
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i wish it was on PPV. I would have paid $100 to see that live! My only question is DID it acually happen. CNN said they confermed his death, then said they didnt know! They said either the U.S. handed im over to the Iraqis or the Iraqis handed him over to the U.S. minutes before he was executed!! Dont know.....oh well im not losing sleep over this one...

now, back to watching Worlds Scarest Police Chases on Court TV... Love that channel. Watched a 2 day COPS marothon on xmas eve and day!!
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slaughter, buddy, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. To 'disappear' would be the worst possible thing that could happen. His death needs to be televised live and in technicolor. Maybe not in the US market - but there must be NO DOUBT whatsoever in Iraq that that SOB is dead. Dead as in really dead, as in NEVER coming back. Dead as in his body being on semi-public display. His death should be on every billboard and marquee in Iraq.

It's not that I relish death, it's only that I met many people in Iraq that STILL feared Saddam even though he was in custody. People who were afraid to even talk to US soldiers because we left them high and dry the last time. People who were afraid we'd leave the job unfinished AGAIN, and they'd have to deal with that whackjob.

Maybe some martyrs will arise out of his execution. In my opinion, those people would be fighting us regardless. Saddam would only be an excuse to keep fighting. For the other millions of Iraqis his hanging means they no longer have to fear his retribution. Those are the people we need on our side if we ever hope to leave Iraq with any kind of stability.

As a side note, I have a friend here in the States. He is an Iraq borne Kurd who left Iraq after Desert Storm. Actually he was in the Iraqi army but deserted when the US invaded Kuwait. Now he is a med student at UK. Very straight up and interesting guy, I'd consider him a friend. He is almost giddy that Saddam is dead. Of course you tend to be giddy when the man who killed your mother, father, uncle, and sister is executed.

((Hope my post is legible and coherent, it's Saturday night - I'm slightly less then sober))
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice insight there Mike. Thanks for sharing it.
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Cixyx_pilot
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Kurbennett
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Justice is served. But the question is;

Are the Iraqi's the way they are because of Saddam, or was Saddam the way he was because of the Iraqi's?
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It matters not what Iraq is or was. Nor even how many good or even great things Hussein did. Fact is, outside of any conflict he murdered people, often in very brutal ways, and that included women and children.

Hope my post is legible and coherent, it's Saturday night

Mike you need to drink more if it inspires words of such meaning like these......

Maybe some martyrs will arise out of his execution. In my opinion, those people would be fighting us regardless. Saddam would only be an excuse to keep fighting. For the other millions of Iraqis his hanging means they no longer have to fear his retribution. Those are the people we need on our side if we ever hope to leave Iraq with any kind of stability.

So true I imagine.

Rocket
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Aldaytona
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While Saddam was no prize, he had the blood thirsty primitives under control in their country and kept the bigger evil Iran under control as well.
Ol Georgie opened a giant can of "whoop ass" that we can't seem to find a way to close. Those stone age people have been killing each other for centuries and will be doing it for centuries to come as long as 2 of them survive.
The old way of selling both sides arms to murder each other is better than giving them arms to murder us.
In the end they'll have someone as bad or worse than Saddam, we'll have a huge deficit, and thousands of our military brothers dead for naught.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MortarmanMike,

Well spoke (writ, actually)
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Alchemy
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He came from a brutal but secular political party so neither the Sunni nor Shiia particularly trusted him. He was sworn enemy of Iran and that was to our benefit and for a while we supported him in that fight. As a secular leader he viewed Islamic based political movements as a threat so he had no time for the Al Queda types. He was moderately pro western as could be noted by his western style suits worn during his trial and his toleration of Christianity in Iraq.

We are at some risk that his replacement will be far more dangerous to our interests because the new government is likely to eventually be dominated by one or the other of the Sunnis or Shiites. Either of these could be far more friendly to the Al Queda types. This is a risk to the west in the same manner as Iran.

If a secular government ends up surviving the strife between the Islamic factions then we will be very lucky. Lets hope this civilian fighting dies down and the new Iraq nation gets some stability and a chance to grow in a better more peaceful direction.
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Thin_air
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

they should turn over the body to be dragged thru the streets of Bagdad........
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